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bzn
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Posted: 21 Oct 2024 at 03:43 |
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the 76 from my list:
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thorfinnforum
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Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 22:22 |
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Finally have forum access so now I can make an update. Everyone has seen the list. I gave Zolvon a chance to kick all those on the list and then help me with burning all of the towns which he had kept safe and invited those who caused conflicts with others. He accepted this and he had kicked the accounts. His alliance has razed one or two towns and then stopped. All of my attacks ceased on Laugh. I had began razing war machine, the doctor and several other smaller accounts, not within Laugh. During this time, I have recieved a wave of troops from Login5 attacking me on the mine to which Zolvon says that their members can choose to do what they want. I had asked them why no further sieges had happened, then he decided to call me childish and he cannot talk to me anymore as I lie. I am not sure where the lies come from but as Zolvon refuses to aid in the removal of these multis, alongside his want to consistently insult me and allow his members to attack me, I have mailed their alliance that they have the chance to leave or be burned starting with Zolvon. Laughable is coming to an end and I am not harming anyone but their leader unless they choose to defend him. (Regardless of dev action, I am working on noob ringing any and all of the accounts on the list, I hope others join in even more with this) Edited by thorfinnforum - 28 Oct 2024 at 22:26 |
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zolvon
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Posted: 28 Oct 2024 at 23:36 |
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One of the great things about Illy is that people with differing play styles can all play together.
There are, town builders, money makers, crafters, hunters, collectors, warmongers, peacemakers, tourney lovers, puzzle solvers, faction fanatics and many combinations of all of these. I started an alliance 14 years ago as a social experiment. I wanted to see what would happen if you gave a bunch of strangers in an alliance complete freedom to act as they please and the only rule was love. Every member is a super user and all alliance powers are turned on for everyone. You see, I have a theory that if you treat adults like children then they will start acting like children and that is what our societies do when we are constantly passing new laws, at a ever increasing rate. We are effectively treating adults like children more and more and that is reflected in the rapidly decreasing moral state of the world. All in all we have had an alliance with very few problems, we had one war in the early days that was started out of boredom and curiosity and a couple of members that were trouble makers. Pretty good for 14 years at it. Now, we get accused of protecting multi accounter's (without evidence), threatened and attacked by the rule loving warmongers who claim the multi accounter's are a threat of some sort to them. I wonder how they are a threat to anyone? We have had some in our alliance with full alliance powers turned on and they never did anything. In fact that is a trait of the multi accounter, they never do anything, just build a few (maybe heaps) of harmless towns. What is certain is that the greatest threat to anyone in this game is the warmongers. They are the only group who attempt to stop others playing in their own style for their own reasons. The problem they have is that after spending years building massive armies they then have to find targets to relieve their tremendous gold-burn. Maybe they are just bullies and cowards and need to find soft targets instead of other warmongers? I don't know.
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Remy
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Posted: 29 Oct 2024 at 00:10 |
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See bazoons list
So... forgive me if I'm misreading this, but are you saying there is no evidence of multiaccounting, and in that very same paragraph acknowledging that there were multis in Laugh? LOL As for them being harmless and never harming anyone: not directly, no. Multiaccounts generally do not attack players. They do not diplo players. They stick to themselves, stay quiet and they peacefully harvest their herbs and minerals, gather their tax, and chill out while slowly growing and expanding across the map for years on end while avoiding all confrontation or anything that would raise suspicion... all 76 of them. Or at least those are the proven ones. Do you not see the problem? When there are 450+ cities of illegitimate accounts, all collecting tax, all occupying map space, all taking herb and mineral spots, all gathering, crafting and collecting for one single player, do you not see how that is an unfair advantage??? Is it so hard to understand? Frankly, after this post I think Thorfinn is being beyond generous. You actually seem to be trying to justify multiaccounting, Zolvon. Edited by Remy - 29 Oct 2024 at 00:12 |
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thorfinnforum
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Posted: 29 Oct 2024 at 00:27 |
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"rule loving warmongers who claim the multi accounter's are a threat of some sort to them" > refuses to aid in the removal of players that they themselves had been housing and now defending them by saying that they are less of a problem than the way I play the game I see Laugh as a threat to the game with a leader openly admitting that. Admitting to a peace deal, refusing to comit to it and then going on some philosophical rant about the way you treat people is a bit of a strange one. You get whatever comes to you. Edited by thorfinnforum - 29 Oct 2024 at 00:30 |
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zolvon
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Posted: 29 Oct 2024 at 00:46 |
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Yes Remy, you misread it and I forgive you.
I was saying that ive seen no evidence of Laugh protecting any multi. |
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thorfinnforum
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Posted: 29 Oct 2024 at 00:52 |
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I am more of a problem so you refuse to siege the multi accounts which are proven? |
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zolvon
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Posted: 29 Oct 2024 at 01:16 |
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Also Remy
They are not a problem to me because of my reasons for playing, anybody can decide anybody is a problem to them if they choose to but don't try and make your problem my problem. So to answer your question... yes, I can see your problem. Truth is, when we became aware that others had a problem with said accounts and were presented with reasonable evidence of who they were, we at Laugh removed those accounts and have even sieged a few of them. |
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bzn
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Posted: 03 Nov 2024 at 01:12 |
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DAILY UPDATE FOR November 03 2024 NAMECHANGES: ID: 313071, Name: Player 313071, Old: Woodron1 ID: 318956, Name: Player 318956, Old: Ocosin1 ID: 319609, Name: Player 319609, Old: Cameraman ID: 327771, Name: Player 327771, Old: Housey1 ID: 328624, Name: Player 328624, Old: Farmerman ID: 330603, Name: Player 330603, Old: Teacher ID: 336447, Name: Player 336447, Old: Woodsmen1 ID: 336690, Name: Player 336690, Old: fielding ID: 336972, Name: Player 336972, Old: Househunter ID: 337419, Name: Player 337419, Old: Ironfilings ID: 337890, Name: Player 337890, Old: Eastbury ID: 337924, Name: Player 337924, Old: Atlantis ID: 337941, Name: Player 337941, Old: Westonbury ID: 340095, Name: Player 340095, Old: Southawk ID: 340558, Name: Player 340558, Old: Electrician ID: 340561, Name: Player 340561, Old: driverman ID: 341196, Name: Player 341196, Old: furnitureland ID: 341467, Name: Player 341467, Old: Marinewolf ID: 342561, Name: Player 342561, Old: Carrotby ID: 342889, Name: Player 342889, Old: Carterfox ID: 342930, Name: Player 342930, Old: firefox ID: 345112, Name: Player 345112, Old: Dortmund ID: 345953, Name: Player 345953, Old: Morpher ID: 346003, Name: Player 346003, Old: Trowelgate ID: 346810, Name: Player 346810, Old: Grandcitadel ID: 347775, Name: Player 347775, Old: Romanlord ID: 349058, Name: Player 349058, Old: Musicwriter ID: 353843, Name: Player 353843, Old: Salsa ID: 355009, Name: Player 355009, Old: Sandstorm ID: 355095, Name: Player 355095, Old: Icebreaker ID: 355099, Name: Player 355099, Old: Billy the beard ID: 360007, Name: Player 360007, Old: Carmen the lost ID: 360839, Name: Player 360839, Old: Drake the forgetfull ID: 360905, Name: Player 360905, Old: Eddisburgh ID: 362220, Name: Player 362220, Old: Danthebrave ID: 364952, Name: Player 364952, Old: Jarktheminer ID: 367067, Name: Player 367067, Old: fightingflea ID: 368935, Name: Player 368935, Old: fieldgate ID: 369548, Name: Player 369548, Old: Criteon ID: 370156, Name: Player 370156, Old: boristhesmall ID: 370157, Name: Player 370157, Old: Crayfish ID: 372408, Name: Player 372408, Old: Armourite ID: 372758, Name: Player 372758, Old: Jackanory ID: 373249, Name: Player 373249, Old: Catfish ID: 373470, Name: Player 373470, Old: Ridgeway ID: 373520, Name: Player 373520, Old: Kingarthur ID: 373707, Name: Player 373707, Old: Goldmine ID: 374347, Name: Player 374347, Old: Marksman ID: 374934, Name: Player 374934, Old: Chieftan ID: 377189, Name: Player 377189, Old: Jack frost ID: 378368, Name: Player 378368, Old: Icecat ID: 381744, Name: Player 381744, Old: Carpetman ID: 382349, Name: Player 382349, Old: major tom ID: 385660, Name: Player 385660, Old: Dogfish ID: 387482, Name: Player 387482, Old: Storageyard ID: 390297, Name: Player 390297, Old: Bobthefish ID: 390316, Name: Player 390316, Old: Pokerface ID: 390361, Name: Player 390361, Old: The capenter ID: 391402, Name: Player 391402, Old: Trackerman ID: 392423, Name: Player 392423, Old: crafter ID: 396470, Name: Player 396470, Old: Khan the noble ID: 399223, Name: Player 399223, Old: Gatekeeper ID: 401237, Name: Player 401237, Old: beachman ID: 401796, Name: Player 401796, Old: housekeeper ID: 401837, Name: Player 401837, Old: Tractorbill ID: 404091, Name: Player 404091, Old: Tentman ID: 406760, Name: Player 406760, Old: Sparky ID: 407068, Name: Player 407068, Old: Tradesmith ID: 407538, Name: Player 407538, Old: bobskin ID: 407693, Name: Player 407693, Old: war wizard ID: 407736, Name: Player 407736, Old: drake the destroyer ID: 408643, Name: Player 408643, Old: Henley ID: 408696, Name: Player 408696, Old: bazza ID: 408705, Name: Player 408705, Old: Crocodus ID: 408731, Name: Player 408731, Old: Horton ID: 408960, Name: Player 408960, Old: Grayson ID: 411448, Name: Player 411448, Old: Goldie ID: 411534, Name: Player 411534, Old: dasher ID: 411827, Name: Player 411827, Old: Paperchaser ID: 412210, Name: Player 412210, Old: the doctor ID: 412473, Name: Player 412473, Old: Labourer ID: 412531, Name: Player 412531, Old: Partsman ID: 412544, Name: Player 412544, Old: Ableman ID: 412678, Name: Player 412678, Old: Dimitri ID: 412838, Name: Player 412838, Old: Gravedigger ID: 413323, Name: Player 413323, Old: dragonslayer ID: 418054, Name: Player 418054, Old: Earl of Soham ID: 420571, Name: Player 420571, Old: The Mechanic ID: 421022, Name: Player 421022, Old: Jerrycanman ID: 421382, Name: Player 421382, Old: Carson ID: 421969, Name: Player 421969, Old: Oregano ID: 422017, Name: Player 422017, Old: Warriordan ID: 422194, Name: Player 422194, Old: Natterjack ID: 422442, Name: Player 422442, Old: Petrolhead ID: 422564, Name: Player 422564, Old: Kingpin ID: 422710, Name: Player 422710, Old: Needles ID: 422736, Name: Player 422736, Old: Orpheus ID: 422745, Name: Player 422745, Old: Ballyho ID: 422779, Name: Player 422779, Old: Paperweight ID: 422863, Name: Player 422863, Old: Parcelman ID: 423744, Name: Player 423744, Old: Jellyfish ID: 425157, Name: Player 425157, Old: bashfulmike ID: 425864, Name: Player 425864, Old: Jasperado ID: 426285, Name: Player 426285, Old: Forest catcher ID: 427774, Name: Player 427774, Old: Salsater1 ID: 427988, Name: Player 427988, Old: The Gardener ID: 428187, Name: Player 428187, Old: Handyman ID: 428398, Name: Player 428398, Old: Jazzhands ID: 428436, Name: Player 428436, Old: Umbilica ID: 428528, Name: Player 428528, Old: Barnhider ID: 428790, Name: Player 428790, Old: blackbeard ID: 428872, Name: Player 428872, Old: Grumpypants ID: 428977, Name: Player 428977, Old: Amaron ID: 430769, Name: Player 430769, Old: Legian ID: 431009, Name: Player 431009, Old: warlock ID: 432096, Name: Player 432096, Old: Charlis
Total: 116 thanks for finally banning them, devs, but 7 years late for some of them... Edited by bzn - 03 Nov 2024 at 01:12 |
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bzn
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Posted: 03 Nov 2024 at 02:00 |
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here is the map of these accounts circa about 1 month ago, before people started razing them:
![]() here is the map as of yesterday: ![]() in a week or two, the community came together and took out about 100 of these cities, nice. you can really see boli making progress in pawa |
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