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zolvon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Warrior Joined: 05 May 2010 Location: NZ Status: Offline Points: 246	Post Options Post Reply Quote zolvon Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Topic: Vast unprovoked attack on Love and Freedom Posted: 12 Oct 2024 at 01:04
	Vast have launched several hostile operations on Love And Freedom, including diplo attacks and occupation of a mine on sovereign ground. As yet no explanation has been given so it is assumed that they are attempting to start a war. Will keep you all updated with more info as it comes in.

bzn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Warrior Joined: 18 Oct 2022 Location: Kul Tar Status: Offline Points: 309	Post Options Post Reply Quote bzn Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 2024 at 00:41
	so laugh is claiming ownership of the dozens of multi farm accounts covering the BL?

zolvon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Warrior Joined: 05 May 2010 Location: NZ Status: Offline Points: 246	Post Options Post Reply Quote zolvon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Oct 2024 at 05:43
	Laugh is a collection of free players and does not claim ownership of its members cities. Multi accounting is illegal in Illyriad and if you have sufficient evidence of such you should pass that on to the Devs. The members of Laugh are not required to police this policy.

zolvon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Warrior Joined: 05 May 2010 Location: NZ Status: Offline Points: 246	Post Options Post Reply Quote zolvon Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Oct 2024 at 19:54
	So apparently it is all about Thorfinn and Ana's (Vast) wanting to be the Illyriad Police, Judge and executioner and clear out BL of alleged multi accounts. This is hard to believe as they have sent multiple large doplo attacks on our members, the occupation of A mine and now they have declared war. They clearly want to be a Neighborhood Bully and are trying to justify it by claiming to only be after the Multis.

bzn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Warrior Joined: 18 Oct 2022 Location: Kul Tar Status: Offline Points: 309	Post Options Post Reply Quote bzn Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 2024 at 03:20
	so, on 10/19/2024 (yesterday), thorfinn said this to a Laugh member: "Be ready to return to many more alliances and people wanting to rid these lower case multi accounts, come up with better names" i have a bot which compares the daily changes in the player datafile, and guess what i caught on 10/20/2024 (today): DAILY UPDATE FOR October 20 2024 NAMECHANGES: ID: 313071, Name: Woodron1, Old: woodron1 ID: 318883, Name: Woodyarc, Old: woodyarc ID: 318956, Name: Ocosin1, Old: ocosin1 ID: 319609, Name: Cameraman, Old: cameraman ID: 327771, Name: Housey1, Old: housey1 ID: 328624, Name: Farmerman, Old: farmerman ID: 330603, Name: Teacher, Old: teacher ID: 336447, Name: Woodsmen1, Old: woodsmen1 ID: 336972, Name: Househunter, Old: househunter ID: 337419, Name: Ironfilings, Old: ironfilings ID: 337924, Name: Atlantis, Old: atlantis ID: 337941, Name: Westonbury, Old: westonbury ID: 340095, Name: Southawk, Old: southawk ID: 340558, Name: Electrician, Old: electrician ID: 341467, Name: Marinewolf, Old: marinewolf ID: 342561, Name: Carrotby, Old: carrotby ID: 342889, Name: Carterfox, Old: carterfox ID: 345112, Name: Dortmund, Old: dortmund ID: 345953, Name: Morpher, Old: morpher ID: 346003, Name: Trowelgate, Old: trowelgate ID: 346810, Name: Grandcitadel, Old: grandcitadel ID: 349058, Name: Musicwriter, Old: musicwriter ID: 353843, Name: Salsa, Old: salsa ID: 355009, Name: Sandstorm, Old: sandstorm ID: 355095, Name: Icebreaker, Old: icebreaker ID: 355099, Name: Billy the beard, Old: billy the beard ID: 360007, Name: Carmen the lost, Old: carmen the lost ID: 360839, Name: Drake the forgetfull, Old: drake the forgetfull ID: 362220, Name: Danthebrave, Old: danthebrave ID: 364952, Name: Jarktheminer, Old: jarktheminer ID: 369548, Name: Criteon, Old: criteon ID: 370157, Name: Crayfish, Old: crayfish ID: 372408, Name: Armourite, Old: armourite ID: 372758, Name: Jackanory, Old: jackanory ID: 373249, Name: Catfish, Old: catfish ID: 373470, Name: Ridgeway, Old: ridgeway ID: 373520, Name: Kingarthur, Old: kingarthur ID: 373707, Name: Goldmine, Old: goldmine ID: 374347, Name: Marksman, Old: marksman ID: 374934, Name: Chieftan, Old: chieftan ID: 377189, Name: Jack frost, Old: jack frost ID: 378368, Name: Icecat, Old: icecat ID: 381744, Name: Carpetman, Old: carpetman ID: 385660, Name: Dogfish, Old: dogfish ID: 387482, Name: Storageyard, Old: storageyard ID: 390297, Name: Bobthefish, Old: bobthefish ID: 390316, Name: Pokerface, Old: pokerface ID: 390361, Name: The capenter, Old: the capenter ID: 391402, Name: Trackerman, Old: trackerman ID: 396470, Name: Khan the noble, Old: khan the noble ID: 397559, Name: Kellar, Old: kellar ID: 399223, Name: Gatekeeper, Old: gatekeeper ID: 401837, Name: Tractorbill, Old: tractorbill ID: 404091, Name: Tentman, Old: tentman ID: 406760, Name: Sparky, Old: sparky ID: 407068, Name: Tradesmith, Old: tradesmith ID: 408493, Name: Stoneface, Old: stoneface ID: 408536, Name: Dragonheart, Old: dragonheart ID: 408643, Name: Henley, Old: henley ID: 408705, Name: Crocodus, Old: crocodus ID: 408716, Name: Electro, Old: electro ID: 408731, Name: Horton, Old: horton ID: 408960, Name: Grayson, Old: grayson ID: 411448, Name: Goldie, Old: goldie ID: 411827, Name: Paperchaser, Old: paperchaser ID: 412473, Name: Labourer, Old: labourer ID: 412531, Name: Partsman, Old: partsman ID: 412544, Name: Ableman, Old: ableman ID: 412563, Name: Earlgrey, Old: earlgrey ID: 412676, Name: Digimoth, Old: digimoth ID: 412678, Name: Dimitri, Old: dimitri ID: 412838, Name: Gravedigger, Old: gravedigger ID: 423744, Name: Jellyfish, Old: jellyfish ID: 425864, Name: Jasperado, Old: jasperado ID: 427774, Name: Salsater1, Old: salsater1 ID: 428872, Name: Grumpypants, Old: grumpypants ID: 429669, Name: Criteont1, Old: criteont1 a whopping 76 accounts changed their name to include one capital letter, just from one igm to a Laugh member. 10 of those namechanged accounts are inside Laugh alliance

zolvon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Warrior Joined: 05 May 2010 Location: NZ Status: Offline Points: 246	Post Options Post Reply Quote zolvon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 2024 at 04:59
	That's amazing! So why you telling me?

King EAM Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Warrior Joined: 26 Aug 2010 Location: GA, USA Status: Offline Points: 274	Post Options Post Reply Quote King EAM Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 2024 at 14:16
	“members of Laugh are not required to police this policy” I agree, nobody is required to do anything (apparently not even following the rules regarding multi accounting). Unfortunately they are a huge issue in this game and some players are thankfully doing work to clean up the rampant cheating. Do you feel “required” to protect any of these cheaters? Thorfinn, thanks for bullying whoever is controlling those 76 accounts into doubling down. Bazoon, thanks for cataloging the changes.
	"It's hard to know until you're a Crow"

Jah Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New Poster Joined: 25 Dec 2022 Location: Bottom Bunk Status: Offline Points: 58	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jah Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 2024 at 17:16


Bolism Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Greenhorn Joined: 22 Aug 2018 Status: Offline Points: 45	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bolism Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 2024 at 17:16
	Some of those accounts are in well known and old alliances, aesir, mcrow, tfotr :( On a note, not all capitalized there first letters in that batch, some did that already when I attacked and newb ring 2 accounts couple of years ago, and some are still styled on old fashion. I warmed some of those alliances at the time of my first operation, and there are several list of IDs around (I know E had one since he tracked them before I even noticed them and discussed about that with him, that was years ago). Glad some of the community are taking that track in their own hands, for the rest I'll let everyone judge by themself. Gotta go and clean the backyard.

eowan the short Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster General Joined: 03 Jan 2016 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 2736	Post Options Post Reply Quote eowan the short Report Post Thanks(1) Quote Reply Posted: 20 Oct 2024 at 19:38
	I supplied the devs with a list of 92 suspect accounts. A great many of them I recognise on Bazoon's list. I've also pestered a few of them on external chats, and at least one is looking into this (as of today). There are other ways to identify these accounts. I'm not going to state them publicly- no sense in restarting the discovery process- but once you've spent some time looking they're not hard to spot.
	This is the thread that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some person started it, not knowing what it was, and we'll continue posting on it forever just because...

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