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    Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 06:02

Today Boromir from Order of the Valar and  Morida from Dwarven Lords both initiated sovereignty claims on one of our players sovereignty squares.  Neither Valor or DLords has any cities close to 593|469. Both are almost 1000 squares away. They cannot be serious about making use of the square. This leaves me to wonder, why they would go out of their way to initiate something against the player and our group.

There can be no dispute, either Dwarven Lords or Order of the Valar could completely wipe those of the Relic off the map.  One player from each group has more population than all of us combined in just one or two of their cities. I can see no reason, no honor, no practical purpose for either of these groups or players in initiating action against us.

Is this a practice older players or groups use to give us notice they are watching us? Or is it a way people attempt to lure others into aggressive action? Can someone please explain why they may have done this? 

Thanks for any input that might shed some light on motive for me. - Meagh

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> FW: Counterclaim rescinded at 593|469
> Received: 16 Sep 2011 03:50
> Original Message:
 The Sovereign counterclaim by Boromir from Erechat this location has been rescinded. As this was your Sovereign Square, this rescindment takes effect immediately.

 

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> FW: Counterclaim rescinded at 593|469
> Received: 16 Sep 2011 03:50
> Original Message:
 The Sovereign counterclaim by Morida from Nubletat this location has been rescinded. As this was your Sovereign Square, this rescindment takes effect immediately.

Edit: I should note that I suspect that these players likely acted of their own initiative in this... the only apparent collusion is between the two (perhaps maybe Boromir's alt is Morida?). This may not be the policy of Valar or Dlords, i've contacted both alliance leaders to find out. Even at that however I'm still interested in the motive behind this and if this is a common tactic in Illy.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 06:48

You need a different title for your thread. Something more catchy.

Just Saying.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 06:59
2 person sent army at the same location and then made strange claim at exactly the same time?
I believe it is a server error.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 07:09
Originally posted by <Squill> <Squill> wrote:

You need a different title for your thread. Something more catchy.

Just Saying.

lol maybe... but before i try to make some inflammatory / catchy title i'd want to know more about it.   

My first thought is that they got the coordinates mixed up or something like the map bug happened again, but the coordinates aren't anywhere near any of their cities. If it's a bug, has this kind of error been known to happen before? It being a bug or server error makes alot more sense then deliberate action on the part of the players... unless they've been drinking too much kool-aid...

I've submitted a support petition on this.   i'm going to operate under the assumption that it is a server error unless someone verifies that this is a ploy that has been used in Illy by players in the past or one of the players says they actually initiated the action...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 07:49
Imagine the sov maintenance!  I'm looking forward to hearing from GM ThunderCat about what really happened.

This speculation just occurred to me:  Mayhap the devs were testing the Chancery of Estates building ... to see if it worked as described?  No idea really, but would be interesting if it were true.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 13:01
Wasn't there an option on Sov that of you put an army on someone else's claim you would collect their Sov upkeep up to the armies carry capacity
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 17:55
This exact same thing happened to a friend of mine, Belthazor. Was Boromir as well
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 19:17
Originally posted by Torn Sky Torn Sky wrote:

Wasn't there an option on Sov that of you put an army on someone else's claim you would collect their Sov upkeep up to the armies carry capacity

I believe this mechanic is not currently functioning - I imagine it is on the 'to-do' list somewhere.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 20:14
Originally posted by Createure Createure wrote:

Originally posted by Torn Sky Torn Sky wrote:

Wasn't there an option on Sov that of you put an army on someone else's claim you would collect their Sov upkeep up to the armies carry capacity

I believe this mechanic is not currently functioning - I imagine it is on the 'to-do' list somewhere.

I had a few armies sitting on Sov Squares of Rurik of the East for 14 days each.  None brought home any goodies when they left the Sov Sqs.  They were on Blockade orders - I don't know if this would matter.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 20:22
Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

They were on Blockade orders - I don't know if this would matter.


My understanding was that armies must be on "occupation" orders to perform/influence any kind of action involving sov claims... feel free to correct me though cos I can't see it written anywhere.
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