Why the war against World's End?

 

Becblue wrote:   [17:52] -Yearick- Exactly, and if Kome needs some resources that bad, I have some I can spare. [17:52] -Yearick-I'd rather wait a few days for a building binge if it means keeping 0-0 quiet while we grow [17:53] -Teiru-Yep, I would gladly donate resources to him too just like you say. We need some more time. [17:53] -Yearick-Its just unfortunate that he's on the front line of it [17:54] -Teiru-Indeed

I love how you post bits from our chat to make it angle like We were the ones planning an attack.

Why dont you post what was said before that or is your spy just wanting to portrait us as hostile? Well, I'll tell you instead.

I was criticizing our own member, Kome for being so sensitive to caravan bumping which is also the reason that led to the SirTwitchy/Kome incident in the first place. Which is why Yearick stated that if he needed resources that he would send him some instead in order to AVOID conflicts with Prisoners. Also this is why Yearick stating that it is unfortunate that he is in the front line of it beacuse he is the one closest to you with such attitude. Me saying We need more time gets a different meaning now, doesnt it? More time to solve and avoid further conflicts with our neighbors.

And wanting to grow is almost every alliance goal, but apparently its now equal to planning a war. 

As for the rest, I’m sure Cyan/Yearick can fill in with better information than I can.

Anyways, Bec I'm glad you decided to give your side of the story no matter how much we might disagree with each other.

EDIT: This also tells me how early you have started to gather intelligence on us while we still did not even think the slightest thought that things were that serious. If we were planning a war with you then I'm sure you could get a more proper "chat screenshot" of us stating that we had plans on going to war with Prisioners.

Edited by Teiru - 22 Nov 2010 at 07:14

 Hello,The position of Prisoners of The Society is this is happening because of a few reasons. First starting off with Cyan mass diplo attacking mine and Valars alliance and giving me no other reason then he suspected my alliance of attacking 1 of his members when i asked who he couldn't even provide detalis and had never contacted me about problems. Even though i apologized nicely even though i did nothing wrong and asked him for a NAP twice he ignored it.Whilst a NAP was eventually offered we still had nothing but problems diplos,caravans&spells. I have found him to be unpolite and a bigheaded bully (it's amazing now he is under pressure he is trying to be nice,lol) I also found out about him doing the same sorts of things to Calaquendi. I went on to learn alot more about them too via a friend in their alliance even the fact that they were planning to attack my alliance here is just a little bit from their chat-[17:52] -Yearick- Exactly, and if Kome needs some resources that bad, I have some I can spare.
[17:52] -Yearick-I'd rather wait a few days for a building binge if it means keeping 0-0 quiet while we grow
[17:53] -Teiru-Yep, I would gladly donate resources to him too just like you say. We need some more time.
[17:53] -Yearick-Its just unfortunate that he's on the front line of it
[17:54] -Teiru-Indeed
**Im so sick of the bullsh*t the last few days,lol the truth of the matter is Cyan is not innocent. It is a game with armies so when you piss alot of people off you got to expect their armies to come knocking besides from his chats he seemed so sure he is the best and could handle anyone,lol so i hope you now understand the reasons why i have chosen to attack Cyan i personally have no problems or intentions of going after anyother members (Even though by rights we could as they were planing on attacking us but i believe only because of Cyan) and that is why i have not declared war because as far as im concerned it's only revenge against Cyan not a war against the whole alliance.
Here is another one of their alliances chats to shed a little light on why-[00:57] I can send you 10K stone in a bit Balks, just waiting for my caravans to get back from shuffling resources around during mass diplo attack
[00:57] who attacked you?
[00:58] Queen of the Calawotsits, she objects to my killing alexius's caravans when he is harvesting on my soverign terrains
[00:59] So far shes had a couple successful scout missions, lost 200 sabs and 75 thieves, and managed to get off with 7K gold. Fair swap so far
[00:59] stone is on the way
[00:59] yeah, he tried to harvest on my sovereign terrain too
[00:59] I have informed her that we consider harvesting on soverign terrains as thieving
[01:00] and thieving caravans are subject to execution
[01:01] yep
[01:02] She said where she comes from destroying caravans is a declaration of war and invited me to move close to her so she could show me what she did to destroyers of caravans.
[01:02] I said I pity her for living in such a barbaric place and said I would not move from my nice civilised spot
[01:03] yeah, what's her pop?
[01:03] 85K I think
[01:03] ouch

Whilst i feel Yearick is a good alliance head i think due to Cyans size he is the main diplo influence and i felt he should stew in retaliation to their intial diplo efforts and whilst i cannot speak for others my alliance has every intention of  stopping when Cyan has payed. Oh and in response to RMY-Shanks before you make a comment find out the facts first, the fact of the matter is our issues had started before issues with TMM had blown up  so we are not hiding behind their smoke screen as you put it and we have nothing to do with TMM. We are not the bullys, I tried diplomatically to sort things out and was very nice about things considering. I myself like to help and be friendly and i have made alot of friends in game because of it. Anyway that is just my 2cents feel free to contact me if you are wishing to discuss the problems further.  Thanks & Best wishes to all, BecBlue  

"Oh, its lovely weather for a slay ride together with youuu!!!"  

Edited by some random guy - 21 Nov 2010 at 22:08

Finrod, my inbox has been a disaster for days but I don't remember getting a message from an ex-T member about your situation.    If I had, I would have responded that Toothless is in no position to help anyone, I have an alliance full of new players who are just learning the game; we are also a peaceful alliance.     The TMM situation has us busy trying to protect our new players in that area of conflict (including those fleeing the threats by TMM). :(

I've contacted SirTwitchy of 0-0, azreil from Valar, (I haven't had time to write to Tinuviel-meant to yesterday) asking why they are attacking.  ST said Cyan was the target, but has not responded to follow up requests as to why. Azreil didn't reply.