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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 19:18
Sloter:  As stated, it was on plains, where there were no advantages for me, and a slight disadvantage for them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 19:17
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 19:16
Depends on the race, NPC hunting is very profitable for humans and dworfs not elfs, since there are no NPC on hills.Did you fought them in building or plains?If you fought them in building and they had infantry and spear then they had large bonuses.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 19:12
You weren't defending, you were attacking.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 19:11
True but: 

1-T1 archers are only slightly more defensive than offensive: 20 attack, 23/24 defense(16 vs cav).
2- The racial bonus makes trueshots cheaper to make, not more effective, they aren't much better attackers/upkeep than sentinels(32/3 vs 20/2).
3-The spiders had lower/equal stats to my units.  The adolescents were 16 vs archers, the giants 20, the spinners 30.  The other 2 types were a bit higher, but they were few.
4- Archers have no bonus on plains, but they also have no minus either.  Meanwhile the bulk of their army(spears) do. 

So a 1:1 loss ratio when one overwhelms an enemy force by 5:1 is good?  That makes attacking npcs all but useless, and the xp/score earned from it too pricey by far....


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 18:37

no u did good, that's alomost a 1:1, look again your battle report, you just lost 18% of your army.

and that's a good result knowing that:


1- you are attacking with defensive units
2- you attacking with T1 units (that are 1/3 weaker that T2 ones and do not have the racial bonus, that is for you on archers)
3- Giant spiders are not the best beasts, but they are sill strong
4- you attacked on Plains while archers are better on mountains


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2011 at 18:22
So...  I attacked some giant spiders.  With mostly T1 bows, to be fair, but T1 elven bows are still an attack value of 20, and giant spiders are weaker than that, for the most part.  So how come with 5-1 odds, I take such high losses?

Commander: Aragorn Elven Trueshots Elven Trueshot 1 Damaged for 18, 82 health remains.
Troops: Sentinels Sentinels 879 161 718
Troops: Elven Trueshots Elven Trueshots 56 10 46
Troops: Protectors Protectors 39 7 32


Defenders: Unit: Quantity: Casualties: Survivors:
Troops: Adolescent Giant Spiders Adolescent Giant Spiders 86 86 0
Troops: Giant Spiders Giant Spiders 36 36 0
Troops: Spitting Spiders Spitting Spiders 52 52 0
Troops: Greater Spinners Greater Spinners 10 10 0
Troops: Elder Giant Spiders Elder Giant Spiders 1 1 0

Can anyone make any sense of this?  Oh, and it was on plains, which doesn't affect the bows really any, negatively affects the spears(including their 86 spears), and helped their 1 cav unit.  I still don't get why my losses were so high...?
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