why isnt there talk of the war here

You are right, historic analogies are always imprecise.

I wouldn't find a neighbor purchasing a plot of land in my neighborhood aggressive.  But I live in a place with zoning and plots and personal property.  Illy has NOT been like that.

Interesting.  If I come up to you on the street and wave a gun in your face and tell you to give me all your money, and you knock me down, you are the aggressor?  Intimidation, threats and/or coercion are aggressive acts in themselves.  In legal terms if I threaten you, your property, or your right, and you strike first because you believe the threat to be real, it's called "provocation" and it's an acceptable defense.

Now you can argue that STOMP escalated.  That is true.  But the escalation was necessary because rights had already been taken from them and all of us.  The right to settle in a particular spot is a right over which we are arguing.  To do nothing to force the issue would have been to accept ipso facto the right to make land claims as they have already been made.  If the land claimers had discussed their methods and desires and the whole issue of land claiming, and gone through the obviously long and tortured road of discussion and persuasion, and had convinced almost everybody that it would be good for the game BEFORE foisting the claims upon us, then you could argue that STOMP was out of line.  But if you steal from me and I try to take back what you stole by force, it's you who have been the aggressor.

You would think such a point would be so obvious that their would be no need to outline it.

AJ


Edited by ajqtrz - 21 Jun 2015 at 18:50

Aurordan wrote: Yeah, I'd support a mandate that forum accounts be linked to and share names with active player accounts too. However, the rules don't currently say anything about it, so there's no reason to get accusatory over it.  (And Illyriad Post gets a thumbs up in my view just because I generally support anything that lets people involve themselves more in the game.)

Captain Kindly wrote: ajqtrz wrote: CK I'm doing stuff on the Illyriad Post myself.  Is admitting that an act of bravery?  Gee, never thought of myself as courageous. Is that an admittance to forum account sharing? If it is, you are in trouble.

One of illyriadpost's first posts said 'Please send your news to illyriadpost@gmail.com'.   Although I don't know for sure, this sounds to me like only one person has the account login info, but others (maybe potentially anyone) asks that one person to post stuff. People often post for others on the forum (sometimes because they have no forum account themselves). I see no problem with this--not that different than asking someone in-game to do something for you.

As for having multiple forum accounts.. interesting question. Since they don't have to be linked to the game accounts in any way at all, I see no reason why you couldn't have more than 1 (or even more than 2) from reading the terms of service or what you click to register a forum account. Although personally I prefer forum posts linked to real players so that I get some context. If there are 'extra' forums-specific terms of service, they should make it very clear in both the rules section and on the thing you agree with when you register for the forums.   

This is all very off-topic.. but almost everything in this thread is sort of off topic since 'why don't we talk about war' turned into people talking about war xD If the devs have clarification on this issue, a new thread (as well as maybe updates to the rules section wording) would be more useful than responding here.

Personally I wish the forum accounts were part of the game accounts so that this wouldn't be an issue to start with... A lot of people avoid getting a forum account because having to get a second different illy account seems weird and inconvenient.

Edited by Alcie - 21 Jun 2015 at 15:19