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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Han Dynasty Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jun 2015 at 23:18
Originally posted by Pico Pico wrote:

Hey Jejune,

If you refer to the Release Notes & Stats page:
http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/HeraldReleaseNotes

You can see that there are currently 1,388 alliances and 4,256 alliance members.

You have stated that "SIN disagrees with Stomps' position that alliance land claims are not representative of Illyriad, as currently 10 different BL alliances are participating in the alliance land claim initiative, representing over 327 active player accounts. We feel that the initiative is representative of BL gameplay..."

10 alliances in BL with land claims doesn´t even come to 2% of all the alliances in the game, neither do the 327 active player accounts.

1% of 1,388= 13.8 alliances, let´s say 14, if my math is correct! :P

Point is, land claims are far from being considered representative of the illy community. I haven´t counted how many alliances have towns in BL, i´m sure it´s more 20, hence you can´t say 10 alliances in BL represent the interest of BL, and furthermore, you can´t separate Elgea and BL, the game consist of both, the only reason you try to impose land claims it´s because you are the biggest alliance in BL. But i do appreciate your comment! and I aslo respect your opinion, just dont agree with it, just as you dont agree with mine.

With regards to taking alliances one at a time, it´s somewhat complicated for 1 player to take on 10 alliances, and as i´ve stated before, I have tried to be upfront with all my opposition, establishing dialogue, trying to come to terms, and a war declaration as a last resort. This is the case with Stark, I contacted Phoenixfire, we spoke, he told me he would consider withdrawing the land claim and talking to his members about it, he came back letting me know that they will uphold their land claim and I thanked him and told him that we will meet on the battle ground eventually, that I would give him a heads up before declaring war. Just to be fair. It´s also a bit complicated since Stark is so small, I didn´t feel comfortable attacking him, and that´s what I told him, that I would find somebody his size to make it a fair fight, which is why I recruited Agalloch, he has the same pop as Phoenixfire.

Therefore my friend, Sin ganging up on a small player such as Agalloch, doesn´t make Sin look too good. And on a side note, Sin has been critizing coalitions and it seems weird to me that Sin would take part in what they have been critizing all this time. 4 Alliances declaring war at the same time, doesn´t look good for Sin´s coalition, but that´s just my take, which of course you will not agree with.

Imo, repeated behavior which caused players to quit the game repeatedly out of boredom, or suicide out just to get action, does not speak true to the game's interest.

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To be honest, and this is my personal position and not that of my alliance, Legal jumble, yada yada...

I have no problem with people declaring land claims... I equally have no problem with people attacking the alliances making land claims.   Land claims in general are done for military reasons.  That being said,  they should be expected to be met with military actions.   If you can defend your claim... you are good.  If you cannot the point is moot.

Broken lands was originally intended to be a more active battle grounds of sorts for players that got board with the farmville approach to this game.  (not bashing that choice of play)  This is an open sandbox.  There are no hard and fast rules.  There are player enforced rules and those can change as the will to enforce them changes.  

I think the whole aspect of Land Claims and their challenge make new and interesting facets.   Maybe it will cause more people to build up forces who normally were only  crafters and chatters... Maybe that will train people for when factions start attacking... maybe it will lead nowhere...

Only time will tell, but for right now, it is getting interesting.  Let the games continue. 

Bimoda, Empress of most of Elgea: Land Claimed by me alone. ;-)
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Are land claims good or bad vol2...
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Maybe the theme of this current war is: "LESS TALKING, MORE SIEGE!
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War is once again upon the lands of Illyriad. As some of you know, recently a part of the Broken Lands territory has been divided between a few imperialist land-grabbers. Alliances participating in this predatory land claiming affair, as of 2015 June 18, are:

  • The Southern Cross [T-SC]
  • The Hashashin [SIN]
  • House Stark [Stark]
  • Broken Blades [B¦B]
  • Hanseatic League [Hansa]
  • TRIVIUM [TVM]
  • Roman Empire [RE]
  • Blackrock orcs [BRO]
  • The Han Dynasty [Han]
  • Deathmongers [Death]

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Deathmongers aren't participating in this war.

Also I think it would be better if you only put the facts and not your opinion, everyone here have one. Yeah, know you probably intend to impersonate a propaganda journalist, and maybe it would be funny, but someone can take you seriously. I prefer serious ones and information based in facts.
Please, show a little more respect to other players. Or at least put a note about the humorous tone in your wordpress.

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There is no claim present that Deathmongers are participating in this war. There is a claim that they are participating in land-grabbing, which is based on Jejune map. Is the information on the map wrong?

All information and commentary presented is based in facts.

No respect to land-grabbers.
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Originally posted by illyriadpost illyriadpost wrote:

There is no claim present that Deathmongers are participating in this war. There is a claim that they are participating in land-grabbing, which is based on Jejune map. Is the information on the map wrong?


True, you did well on that point.


Originally posted by illyriadpost illyriadpost wrote:

All information and commentary presented is based in facts.

No respect to land-grabbers.


I can't agree with this. Maybe it would be more correct:

"All information and commentary presented is based in facts, and my opinion which I have right to express."

Everyone deserve respect as long as they respect the others.
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Originally posted by Raco Raco wrote:


Everyone deserve respect as long as they respect the others.


Well, from my un-allied newb point of view, if some group of players is excluding some other players (in this case, players not in their alliance) to settle in free (unsettled) land just because they are mighty enough to do that, it is not very respectful (not in insulting, but in discriminating kind of way) towards these excluded players. So.

But practically it is not a problem yet, because map is large and there is a lot of unclaimed land.

In my opinion, respect towards other players would mean that land is there for all and "claimed" only by actual usage (settling), not by drawing arbitrary lines on the map and excluding others from such "private properties".
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First blood drawn by land-grabbers.

Aggaloch, a brave freedom fighter from the Stomps alliance is fighting imperialist and theocratic Hashashin forces at their doorstep – two of his towns are located in the Gremont just north of the Fellandire border, and the northern part of Fellandire has been claimed by the Hashashin as their property. Majority of Hashashin towns are located in this usurped territory, therefore it is no surprise that Aggaloch’s towns of Iron Maiden and King Crimson (editorial board does not know what these names mean, but they sound like a good names for some cool music group) were promptly sieged by the land-grabbers.

At the early hours of June 17, Hashashin member DasDwarf laid brutal sieges on both towns. After a day, Iron Maiden was no more (has been razed) and King Crimson is still resisting the siege at the moment of writing.

However, while being outnumbered near Fellandire, Aggaloch did not give up. On early June 18, he laid a siege on Hashashin member Hulk‘s (who is not liked when he is angry) town Fail Attempt No 2 in Pawanallpa further away from the Hashashin territory. At the moment of writing siege is ongoing.


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