Why do you associate maturity with peace in a game

The Duke wrote: Odd how H? continues to forget to mention RHY were suppose to withdraw troops from the mine and didnt which led to the attack. Also last i checked H? + RHY + NC + DLords( who even tho they havent declared has always been H? sister) equal more than 12million. Or maybe my maths off and i forgot to carry the zero

Nah. Youre right 20.5mil.
Ya got me (though considering NOONE outside of H? is ACTUALLY at WAR then maybe NOT)

Wait a sec...Frak! that actually doesnt change my point one bit.

And you were so close to scoring brownie points, averting the statement and misdirecting the argument by focusing on semantics.....

Awwww!


Edited by Llyorn Of Jaensch - 14 Oct 2012 at 05:42

Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote: Wait a sec...Frak! that actually doesnt change my point one bit.

Wow Salarius, you had a wonderful sandbox allegory going that I was really enjoying, until you completely misrepresented it and turned it into an excessively subjective vent.

Your basic premise of the sandbox was pretty accurate. Illyriad as a whole is in many respects not a game but an open world where people may choose their own goals and paths to achieving them. And to create the "game," you need the control, and hence the power, to initiate and enforce that game.

The error you made was assuming H? owns the sandbox. They own a portion of the sandbox. As long as your own game does not cross into their edge of the box, you're fine. The trouble being that the lines drawn in the sandbox are completely grey.

And the main problem, the reason for ALL of this conflict, is (drum roll please): The devs failed to give us the tools to create our own games.

Okay, that might be an exaggeration. But think about it: what kinds of games can you play in Illy outside of "Fight for the Sandbox?" The combat system outside of siege is too restrictive and simplified to have any true entertainment value. Oh, fight NPCs? Click square, send army, get report. Tournaments? A little more challenging and strategic, but still comprised of throwing armies at a square and praying you hold it. Trade is immensely fun, except that everything in the economy exists for the sole purpose of preparing for combat, unless you enjoy hording gold.

Don't blame H? for the fact that the game mechanics simply scream for boredom-induced metagaming and unjust war.

I've just been confused by this whole mess as it's unfolded. I have considered myself a supporter of the way H? members have handled themselves and enjoyed reading their version of Elgea's history as a new player. I have no ties to either of the groups involved and yet find the whole turn of events disturbing. 

Edited by Gon - 14 Oct 2012 at 14:02

PirateKing wrote: Aarrrr!  I associate maturity with senility.

/me has faculties firmly in place.