Who is winning?

jcx wrote: We are all winners - Happy New Year!

I still say I won tho

We are all winners - Happy New Year!

Spinsters??

ES2 wrote: What defines a victory?

In the long term, the defeat of your opponent, presumably by surrender or destruction, or possibly just by retreat or stalemate (in defensive conflicts). In the short term, victory is defined by the achievement of objectives that support your long term victory conditions, or else thwart the compromise of those conditions.

ES2 wrote: If you invest most of your units into one area and lose a majority of them in the process of gaining control of that area, is that really a victory? You would still have so much field to cover with substantially less units, high loss/low gain.

If you need to control that area to achieve your victory conditions, it's really a victory. Your opponents would need to invest a lot of Illyriad units to inflict those casualties on you. If achieving the individual victory meant compromising your ability to achieve your long term goal for overall victory, then it was a Pyrrhic win.

For example, if you broke an individual huge siege, but subsequently lacked the cavalry to break future sieges, then it was a foolish short term victory.

Arakamis wrote: Victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival. -- Winston Churchill All war is deception. -- Sun Tzu