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Brids17 
Postmaster General
Joined: 30 Jul 2010
Location: Canada
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Points: 1483
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 Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 18:35 |
 GM Luna wrote:
And your first trader for your first trade hub doesn't require any grapes. So you can trade without having any grapes. |
Ah, that's good to hear. =)
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Salararius
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Joined: 26 Sep 2011
Location: USA
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Points: 519
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Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 18:14 |
I don't see the point in hording grapes. They offer no military advantage and no production advantage and what is the point of having traders if no one else does. People will sell excess grapes, unless they are just stupid.
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GM Luna
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Community Manager
Joined: 22 Oct 2011
Location: Illyriad
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Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 18:10 |
Brids17 wrote:
Ander wrote:
There are plenty dmar, mostly in "small green hills" kind of places. I have seen them in Keppen, Zanpur, Laoshin and some other places. |
Are they really placed in certain places based on the area of the map? I worried this might be the case. I don't understand the Devs reasoning in this. Make an item that seems fairly scarce, then make players require mass quantities of it in order to trade? |
Grapes aren't required to trade. You can do town-to-town trades with caravans on the town-to-town market. And your first trader for your first trade hub doesn't require any grapes. So you can trade without having any grapes. But if you want to trade in distant lands in many hubs, you'll start to need them to create your traders.
It will take a while of us monitoring trade once the system is fully operational in game to tell if any change to grape distribution is required. Until then, we just have to wait and see.
Luna
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Brids17
Postmaster General
Joined: 30 Jul 2010
Location: Canada
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Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 17:56 |
Ander wrote:
There are plenty dmar, mostly in "small green hills" kind of places. I have seen them in Keppen, Zanpur, Laoshin and some other places. |
Are they really placed in certain places based on the area of the map? I worried this might be the case. I don't understand the Devs reasoning in this. Make an item that seems fairly scarce, then make players require mass quantities of it in order to trade?
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dmar
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Joined: 01 Aug 2012
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Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 17:13 |
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Thanks for the anwsers, everyone. I still haven't seen a single grapes patch, but I will persevere. I want to be a trader, and I have to settle a new city soon, hopefully I'll find an unoccupied one.
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
Location: California
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Points: 6903
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Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 15:38 |
Fuzzytek wrote:
I'm using Firefox 3.6.28 on a PowerMac G5 OS 10.4.11 and none of the harvest for minerals, grapes, herbs, etc are shown. Likewise sovereign shading is missing and the world map doesn't offer mouse drag to change location (have to use +/- and tap on region map).
When I use Safari 4.1.3 the above concerns are all addressed. I can't upgrade Firefox beyond this release due to the PowerPC architecture. I suppose I could try Opera and a few other browsers to see what results are. It'll depend on them running on PowerPC.
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I suggest you file a petition or post under Technical Support, your comment is more likely to get attention from the appropriate people there.
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Rorgash
Postmaster
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Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 07:59 |
Just claimed 4 vineyards, if someone wants any pay up 
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Fuzzytek
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Joined: 07 May 2012
Location: Detroit
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Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 07:29 |
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I'm using Firefox 3.6.28 on a PowerMac G5 OS 10.4.11 and none of the harvest for minerals, grapes, herbs, etc are shown. Likewise sovereign shading is missing and the world map doesn't offer mouse drag to change location (have to use +/- and tap on region map).
When I use Safari 4.1.3 the above concerns are all addressed. I can't upgrade Firefox beyond this release due to the PowerPC architecture. I suppose I could try Opera and a few other browsers to see what results are. It'll depend on them running on PowerPC.
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
Location: California
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Posted: 01 Aug 2012 at 19:57 |
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Ahem ... those of us already in Laoshin are tending our vineyards well ... tenderly. Given that you need almost 4000 grapes for one cask of wine, most of the vineyards already have armies guarding them.
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Quackers
Forum Warrior
Joined: 19 Nov 2011
Location: Jeff City
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Points: 435
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Posted: 01 Aug 2012 at 19:05 |
dmar wrote:
I don't see any grapes square near any of my cities, and I have also tried to look around the map and I've yet to find one. Are them all in a particular region, or really scarce? Or is this a bug? |
They are very scarce I've only seen 5 scattered around the map a bit. Kind of hard to see at first but they are there.
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