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Larry
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Topic: What to do with H? Posted: 09 Oct 2010 at 04:53 |
Here's the "highly reasonable" terms we preferred self destruction to.
H? wrote:
First off, let me say that with our previous experiences in real-time large map browser games we are definitely not looking to push useful active players out of the game or leave a power vacuum with no-one to fill it and create stagnation. However, given the circumstances around this conflict and the public BS that we've endured from various White members this isn't going to end without Harmless getting our proverbial "pound of flesh". There was a significant minority vote for completely ignoring communications and continuing to flatten players.
Secondly, we work in a slightly different way to most folks in terms of our "hit list" for people who have wronged the alliance. Our hit list is always player by player regardless of alliance tag. Alliance leaders who set aggressive policies towards us are obviously responsible. The rank and file who are often kept in the dark, fed BS and are usually simply following orders don't particularly bother us. People who never got involved at all are free to walk regardless of the fact they were in White/Black. Conversely, just because someone has left W/B doesn't mean they get a free pass. Gigi, formerly of Black, is a classic example. I know for a fact she was very proud of her war efforts - they will cost her somewhat even though she is now "neutral".
With that said, here are the terms:
1) Full and public admission of responsibility for the war and apology to Harmless (for the continual slander) on Illyriad forum - This is not negotiable.
2) Reparations from selected White/Black members divided into categories as follows: i) Severe (people who delighted in ganking our noobs (and other noobs), generally being antisocial and not considered an asset to the game) ii) Minor (White/Black leadership and selected other players) iii) None (The majority of the members of White/Black).
3) One month moratorium on any hostile action against any member of Harmless? regardless of which of your NAP/Confed's we may enter conflict with.
4) Rights to remove cities from any inactive White/Black Players without opposition.
Draft reparation definitions (final definitions to be determined):
Severe - More than one city, significant % of population destroyed. Minor - one major city - tbd depending on population/location. None - no reparations required.
We toyed with the idea of demanding White be disbanded but assuming item (1) is carried out I don't think that will be necessary.
We are in the process of deciding which members fall into which categories and which members have already been hit sufficiently to already have paid their reparations.
I understand final agreement will depend on the final classification of your members into the categories above and the determination of the actual reparations but I think this gives you enough of an idea to figure out if we can work something out or whether further discussion would be pointless at this stage. |
#3 essentially meant ditching our allies at the time, and leaving our allies to get gunned down in our place just really wasn't our style
Thought it might be useful. Although probably not to my own situation.
Edited by Larry - 09 Oct 2010 at 04:59
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KarL Aegis
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 23:20 |
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Let it die!
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I am not amused.
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-hypocritical-
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 20:25 |
G0DsDestroyer wrote:
Stop complaning about losing then |
incase you didn't notice, we haven't compaint in a while, and we lost a good while ago, please keep up with current events :)
either let the thread die or post on topic
Edited by -hypocritical- - 07 Oct 2010 at 20:26
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Taron
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 20:21 |
G0DsDestroyer wrote:
Stop complaning about losing then |
This thread is a complait, so I thought I would complain as well about how much you people are crying !
I havent seen any complaints yet.
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G0DsDestroyer
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 20:17 |
Stop complaning about losing then
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-hypocritical-
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 20:04 |
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G0DsDestroyer
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 19:53 |
Taron wrote:
and is what we should do after Blood shed. Winners smile losers die. Get over it you ! If your not going to win surrender or die trying. |
What he said 
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Taron
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 19:50 |
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G0DsDestroyer
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 19:18 |
Taron wrote:
Thats what I think we should do. Shake hands have some Blood shed and move on. If you are not surviving you were not meent to survive. |
Exactly why can't you people  see that what's done is done.
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Taron
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Posted: 07 Oct 2010 at 19:04 |
 Thats what I think we should do. Shake hands have some Blood shed and move on. If you are not surviving you were not meent to survive.
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