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Brids17 
Postmaster General
Joined: 30 Jul 2010
Location: Canada
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Points: 1483
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 Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 07:28 |
 KillerPoodle wrote:
I'd have a lot more respect for someone who just said "I wanna take on the largest alliance in the game and have some fun doing it, who's with me?" |
I think a lot of people want to take out H?. The problem is many people are afraid due to that 1.5M population thing. No one wants to say "I'd like to take out H?" to you guys because they're afraid you'll attack them. So can you really blame people for making fake accounts and creating threads like this?
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Shrapnel
Wordsmith
Joined: 01 Jun 2010
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Points: 180
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 15:40 |
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I don't want to take out H?, but I do worry that they are becoming increasingly militant now that WHITE is basically gone (gee didn't someone predict this). I mean come on, really? You are threatening people just for speaking out and disagreeing with you? Attacking somone for threatening to take hostile action against you is one thing, but attacking them because they are vocalizing a disagreement with how you play the game (especially when the majority have a certain opinion of how players should conduct themselves)? That's just pathetic.
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The Resistance
New Poster
Joined: 29 Sep 2010
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Points: 8
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 16:06 |
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I have no interest in "taking them out" either, honestly. I just have a feeling that they're going to come for me eventually, and when that day comes I want to be prepared. They aren't willing to admit just how afraid people are of them, but they seemed to enjoy actively cultivating that fear.
Also, H?, any response to publicly stating that your going to punish people who act on the words of one of your own members saying it would be alright?
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-hypocritical-
Greenhorn
Joined: 11 Sep 2010
Location: Ireland
Status: Offline
Points: 81
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 16:56 |
KillerPoodle wrote:
-hypocritical- wrote:
also -HM-, I may be reading it wrong, but you are saying that if our allies defend us, that counts as war? for defending friends? I hope not, but if so I can see your reign has gone bitter already hardly the peaceful harmless your front pages sets you out to be |
Please point out the part of our Alliance profile that says we are peaceful.
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ok it dosen't say peaceful, thats my fault, I was remembering something different
but on a sidenote on your description it does say:
"Turn-offs are intentionally sloppy grammar, boasting, bullying(attacking players for attacking one of your members in a wa 6 months ago? by raising one of the bigger cities in the game? semms fair)
and half-hearted attempts at psychological or social manipulation(help out and we will but you on our sh*tlist, in basic terms."
so I still believe you have abit of editing to do :D
Edited by -hypocritical- - 30 Sep 2010 at 16:56
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Kumomoto
Postmaster General
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
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Points: 2224
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 17:34 |
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You guys can try to equate the results of a war with bullying all you want, but it's simply not the same thing. We had a war, we won, we are exacting very controlled reprecussions against a small minority of our former enemies who were particulary eggregious in their harrassment of our newbie members during the war. These former enemies think that because they left their alliance all of their previous behavior should be forgotten and forgiven. We don't. It's that simple.
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-hypocritical-
Greenhorn
Joined: 11 Sep 2010
Location: Ireland
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Points: 81
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 17:46 |
Kumomoto wrote:
You guys can try to equate the results of a war with bullying all you want, but it's simply not the same thing. We had a war, we won, we are exacting very controlled reprecussions against a small minority of our former enemies who were particulary eggregious in their harrassment of our newbie members during the war. These former enemies think that because they left their alliance all of their previous behavior should be forgotten and forgiven. We don't. It's that simple. |
he destroyied the army of one of your members, not really harassment more sort of attacking the enemy but hey :| I guess you could raze a town over that
and that isn't the main point, it's that you threatened to but any player or alliance who assists Crank on your "sh*t list" so they can expect a large army at their door in a few months if they grow somewhat powerful yet you expect us to defend our members which will destroy our entire military and take a logn time to recover from, it's been said many times this isn't justice or revenge, this is just cutting the grass
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Kumomoto
Postmaster General
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
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Points: 2224
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 17:50 |
-hypocritical- wrote:
Kumomoto wrote:
You guys can try to equate the results of a war with bullying all you want, but it's simply not the same thing. We had a war, we won, we are exacting very controlled reprecussions against a small minority of our former enemies who were particulary eggregious in their harrassment of our newbie members during the war. These former enemies think that because they left their alliance all of their previous behavior should be forgotten and forgiven. We don't. It's that simple. |
he destroyied the army of one of your members, not really harassment more sort of attacking the enemy but hey :| I guess you could raze a town over that
and that isn't the main point, it's that you threatened to but any player or alliance who assists Crank on your "sh*t list" so they can expect a large army at their door in a few months if they grow somewhat powerful yet you expect us to defend our members which will destroy our entire military and take a logn time to recover from, it's been said many times this isn't justice or revenge, this is just cutting the grass
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You weren't there. He harrassed our newbie members for weeks. He did not just kill one army. I remember endlessly sending resources and aid up to members near him just to keep them from quitting. Don't talk about history that you know nothing about.
Edited by Kumomoto - 30 Sep 2010 at 17:51
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-hypocritical-
Greenhorn
Joined: 11 Sep 2010
Location: Ireland
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Points: 81
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 17:53 |
Kumomoto wrote:
-hypocritical- wrote:
Kumomoto wrote:
You guys can try to equate the results of a war with bullying all you want, but it's simply not the same thing. We had a war, we won, we are exacting very controlled reprecussions against a small minority of our former enemies who were particulary eggregious in their harrassment of our newbie members during the war. These former enemies think that because they left their alliance all of their previous behavior should be forgotten and forgiven. We don't. It's that simple. |
he destroyied the army of one of your members, not really harassment more sort of attacking the enemy but hey :| I guess you could raze a town over that
and that isn't the main point, it's that you threatened to but any player or alliance who assists Crank on your "sh*t list" so they can expect a large army at their door in a few months if they grow somewhat powerful yet you expect us to defend our members which will destroy our entire military and take a logn time to recover from, it's been said many times this isn't justice or revenge, this is just cutting the grass
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You weren't there. He harrassed our newbie members for weeks. He did not just kill one army. I remember endlessly sending resources and aid up to members near him just to keep them from quitting. Don't talk about history that you know nothing about. |
I'm going by what Carnk has told me, if you can give "endless" logs of him constantly attacking smaller members then I will accept that you are right, I remember a white member stating that they prefer record kepping ;) so this should be easy
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Shrapnel
Wordsmith
Joined: 01 Jun 2010
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Points: 180
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 18:31 |
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Let's be clear (about my point of view anyway). I think H? is mostly in the right about this. I actually mostly buy the "H? are the good guys" line. But that's my problem. I feel H? is being a poor winner and overreacting. As the "good guy" you have to expect to be held to a higher standard and razing a 22k pop city for a few attacks that did no more than kill troops and steal resources at most goes from righteous retribution to vengeful vindictiveness. Superman brings the villians to justice, he doesn't kill them.
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Powong
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Joined: 29 Sep 2010
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Points: 6
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Posted: 30 Sep 2010 at 18:51 |
Kumomoto wrote:
You weren't there. He harrassed our newbie members for weeks. He did not just kill one army. |
Of course each side has his proper version of the facts. But finally, know the truth is just a detail. There were a war; you win; as winners you think that the side who lost doesn't have his count already... I won't say that this is honorable and that this is not just a pretext... but forget one minute that your retaliations are dispropotionnate and hide your real intentions. As it seems not to be an eye for an eye, but an eye for a head, you are perpetuing the war cycle. KP said that he would prefer to be in front of someone who says "lets fight against the biggest alliance for fun" (if i well understood). But acting like that, you can be sure that people wont attack you for fun but for vengeance. We are talking about Crank. But you are preparing 4 sieges against 3 different players of [Good]. So ok, like i said, lets forget the truth and the justice. Actually you are planning to destroy 4 cities. Normally, if you just want to repair some things and not more, you may destroy that 4 cities and then leave these players because they have their count. But if after you do more than your are already doing against these players... this is that you are not just doing controlled retaliations as you seem to say. Then it would mean that you are dangerous for the other alliances. Anyway... we will be fixed in few days or weeks.
Edited by Powong - 30 Sep 2010 at 19:04
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