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CranK 
Forum Warrior
Joined: 27 Apr 2010
Location: Holland
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Points: 286
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 Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 18:02 |
 Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:
-hypocritical- wrote:
and back on topic:
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Comparing H? to the Nazi's?
To compare a gaming action with the holocaust is frankly disgusting, irrelevant of the free speech point you're trying poorly to make.
Get a life mate.
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No Llyorn, this has never been said.. Its just a quote that doesn't relate to anything that you are saying now.. leave it..
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-hypocritical-
Greenhorn
Joined: 11 Sep 2010
Location: Ireland
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Points: 81
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 17:49 |
Miaa wrote:
I totally agree that you (and everyone) should speak up for their beliefs, and for freedom of speech |
you may agree, but your alliance doesn't(yes I'm lumping you in with h?), they will seige those who speak out against them, or those who assist us
look at the first few pages for proof of this :)
and it's no more than a warning, good may be a threat in future, so they are removed, and no one said anything(hey it's not ius, dont say anything and it will stau that way)
but I see invictus and tranquill becoming powerful, what terrible acts will they commit?
also rancor? try having the largest city in the alliance razed for no good reason, and not care about it, you defend players who have invested little time and money into the game via toothless, even farming them will provoke a response, CranK has invested alot of time into the money and is being seiged for the same reason those newbs are being farmed, for the heck of it, what can they do? nothing!
the worst thing is that h? deny their gameplay. that they hide under their cloak of "fair play", "integrity" and "maturity" and yet even after acts like these the public still defend them, why? because they are not [Good]
edit: no comparasion to nazi's, you aren't, it is just suited, and like I said, stay away from the topic, dont try and get this dicussion locked ;)
Edited by -hypocritical- - 04 Oct 2010 at 17:59
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Llyorn Of Jaensch
Postmaster
Joined: 31 Mar 2010
Location: Sydney
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Points: 924
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 17:43 |
-hypocritical- wrote:
and back on topic:
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Comparing H? to the Nazi's? To compare a gaming action with the holocaust is frankly disgusting, irrelevant of the free speech point you're trying poorly to make. Get a life mate.
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Miaa
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Joined: 02 Oct 2010
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 17:43 |
PS most of my family died in the Holocaust. I'm so used to hearing it invoked, it doesn't bother me, except I find most uses of it laughable compared to the experience of having one's family murdered, then living with the aftermath... the effect goes on for generations.
So use the reference if you wish... just make sure it's for something comparable. And I hope you never experience something comparable. =)
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Miaa
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 17:40 |
I totally agree that you (and everyone) should speak up for their beliefs, and for freedom of speech But I feel the most important factor here is that H? is now dominant. It's human nature to question any dominant group, and that is healthy. What isn't healthy are the rancor and stewing in grievances on one side, and any potential defensiveness or lack of appreciation for other points of view, on the other side.
I find H? is quite willing to listen, so I'm looking forward to what happens next. Hopefully it will include (continue to include, in most cases) respect on both sides.
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-hypocritical-
Greenhorn
Joined: 11 Sep 2010
Location: Ireland
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Points: 81
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 17:35 |
I think that would require a forum ban then CranK :d since it would have to be delibarate and stormcrow did warn against attempting to provoke godwins law
No one wins when they bring Nazi, Hitler, and/or Holocaust references into a thread.
So please don't.
tyvm
SC
and there it is ^^
so dont :P
Edited by -hypocritical- - 04 Oct 2010 at 17:37
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CranK
Forum Warrior
Joined: 27 Apr 2010
Location: Holland
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 17:30 |
where did you find that quote? 
And I do see the Irony in this.. as I wasn't such a bad person H? said I am.. So I do have people speak out for me.. A 22 pages long thread as example :)
Altho, I see godwin's law come up again at the 4th line....
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-hypocritical-
Greenhorn
Joined: 11 Sep 2010
Location: Ireland
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Points: 81
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 17:25 |
and back on topic:
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Edited by -hypocritical- - 04 Oct 2010 at 17:26
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bartimeus
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Joined: 09 Jul 2010
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Points: 222
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 11:54 |
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Like making your troops mad for eternity; they dont want to leave your town anymore, but you still need to pay the upkeep.
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Bartimeus, your very best friend.
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Hora
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Joined: 10 May 2010
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Points: 839
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 11:27 |
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You don't even know, if it's really a fear rune, it might have some special side effects...
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