What to do with H?

I know it's probably pointless but I'm gonna try one last time to dispell some myths (GM's - I think a new branch of magic is required):


1) "OMG H? is huge and so much bigger than anyone else!!!!111eleventy1"

The #2 and #3 alliances basically self destructed. When that happens there will always be a big gap to the new #2 and #3 for a while. Both White/Black and MK had leaders who made some terrible decisions which caused their own downfall, all we really did for most of the war was soak up their offense and diplos then counter attack when we had opportunities.

At the point the war started White/Black had more members and could easily have out grown us but they chose to focus on military too early and suffered for it - they started the war strong while we were trying to gear up but lost out long term due to lower production capacity. Goes back to my first point.

In conclusion - we have less than 50 members, we aren't likely to fill up and many of us are now approaching our pop/city limit and won't be growing much further (I don't plan to settle any more cities unless the mechanics change significantly) so it's easily possible for another single alliance to out grow us and easily possible for a coalition to form up and take us on - I see it as only a matter of time and I welcome that challenge.


2) "Once they finish with those guys whose next?"

At this time, no-one. We generally don't go looking for fights. There's usually someone always gunning for us such that we can simply sit back and let someone else make the first move. Besides which I anticipate being busy exploring all the new content that the awesome GM's are adding to this game.


3) "Razing XYZ's city is like totally unfair man and way out of proportion to whatever ABC suffered."

Let me remind everyone that the stated purpose of White and Black when they started this was to completely remove H? from the game. All of us, permanently.  Not a fun fight, not *some* damage but complete extermination and with many of our smaller, weaker and more isolated members they succeeded. There are many people who no longer play because of White/Black's actions (on both sides of the conflict).

So, with that firmly in mind, just taking/razing a city seems pretty much like a slap on the wrist by comparison. Some members of White/Black have suffered more than that but most of those had already abandoned the game before their cities were attacked. The whining seen from people over loosing a city (threatening to quit etc.) is particularly sad.

Anyone who still thinks it's unfair (Grog?) I offer the following. We'll give you to the same treatment the weakest H? members had to suffer (for weeks) and by the end of it I guarantee you'll agree that loosing a city or two for the perpetrators is pretty fair compensation/justice/revenge. I'am sure that many of our current members would be significantly (i.e. more than 1/8th) bigger had they not suffered at the hands of White/Black and had their growth stunted for a long time.


4) I think it's pretty sad that people feel they have to come up with this crap about us to justify having a go. I'd have a lot more respect for someone who just said "I wanna take on the largest alliance in the game and have some fun doing it, who's with me?" I'm fed up with all the rubbish being spouted about us so here's notice:

If you badmouth H? in Global or on this forum you might end up getting some game content from us that you might not like.


5) Finally, despite what The Resistance says above - anyone who participates in attacks against us or assists in the defence of our enemies is adding themselves to our potential target list.

And yes, we expect GOOD will defend their own members, because they have a responsibility to players they accept into their ranks, however unwise that decision.  I can't say the same for cowards and opportunists who just want a degree of separation from directly attacking us.  Only GOOD gets to walk away without bad blood--or troops--when we're done.

I allraidy love this thread :)

Methinks I smell a former White/Black member in this "anonymous" post...

Edited by Kumomoto - 29 Sep 2010 at 21:01

Obviously not, that guy was intelligent enouth to make a fake forum account (I couldn't find him through a profil search in game).