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-hypocritical- 
Greenhorn
Joined: 11 Sep 2010
Location: Ireland
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Points: 81
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 Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 17:49 |
 Miaa wrote:
I totally agree that you (and everyone) should speak up for their beliefs, and for freedom of speech |
you may agree, but your alliance doesn't(yes I'm lumping you in with h?), they will seige those who speak out against them, or those who assist us
look at the first few pages for proof of this :)
and it's no more than a warning, good may be a threat in future, so they are removed, and no one said anything(hey it's not ius, dont say anything and it will stau that way)
but I see invictus and tranquill becoming powerful, what terrible acts will they commit?
also rancor? try having the largest city in the alliance razed for no good reason, and not care about it, you defend players who have invested little time and money into the game via toothless, even farming them will provoke a response, CranK has invested alot of time into the money and is being seiged for the same reason those newbs are being farmed, for the heck of it, what can they do? nothing!
the worst thing is that h? deny their gameplay. that they hide under their cloak of "fair play", "integrity" and "maturity" and yet even after acts like these the public still defend them, why? because they are not [Good]
edit: no comparasion to nazi's, you aren't, it is just suited, and like I said, stay away from the topic, dont try and get this dicussion locked ;)
Edited by -hypocritical- - 04 Oct 2010 at 17:59
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CranK
Forum Warrior
Joined: 27 Apr 2010
Location: Holland
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Points: 286
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 18:02 |
Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:
-hypocritical- wrote:
and back on topic:
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Comparing H? to the Nazi's?
To compare a gaming action with the holocaust is frankly disgusting, irrelevant of the free speech point you're trying poorly to make.
Get a life mate.
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No Llyorn, this has never been said.. Its just a quote that doesn't relate to anything that you are saying now.. leave it..
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bartimeus
Forum Warrior
Joined: 09 Jul 2010
Location: Right behind U
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Points: 222
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 18:05 |
-hypocritical- wrote:
and back on topic:
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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That quote is extremely famous, so I hope you didn't think of making yourself [usefull/clever/special] by stating it.
Crank is rigth, this quote is complitely out of place in a thread 22 page long. Obviously people do speak out.
Lastly, You are implying that H? will hunt us all down one by one... Thats plain nonsense. H? wants to hurt someone who was part of an hostile alliance and who tried to escape punishment by switching alliance. It doesn't matter wether he wasn't completely evil or not. How hard is that to comprehend? Any alliance would (should) do the same. And I havn't seen any serious threat about what you should or shouldn't say in forum; If those "threat" were anything more than jokes, why do you think your town are still around and unseiged?
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Llyorn Of Jaensch
Postmaster
Joined: 31 Mar 2010
Location: Sydney
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Points: 924
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 18:09 |
CranK wrote:
Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:
-hypocritical- wrote:
and back on topic:
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Comparing H? to the Nazi's?
To compare a gaming action with the holocaust is frankly disgusting, irrelevant of the free speech point you're trying poorly to make.
Get a life mate.
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No Llyorn, this has never been said.. Its just a quote that doesn't relate to anything that you are saying now.. leave it.. |
CranK: "Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;" is a Holocaust reference. I wont tolerate the insinuation or reference. I hope I've made myself clear to you and your pet.
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-hypocritical-
Greenhorn
Joined: 11 Sep 2010
Location: Ireland
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Points: 81
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 18:12 |
"That quote is extremely famous, so I hope you didn't think of making yourself [usefull/clever/special] by stating it."
I know it's famous, how do you think I know it? I just think it is relevent
"Crank is rigth, this quote is complitely out of place in a thread 22 page long. Obviously people do speak out."
Crank was agreeing with me?
also H? did threaten anone who helped us by saying they would be but on the "list", so no they haven't seiged me yet, but they prob will in 6 months because I attacked their noobs/attacked someone wayy weaker than me/ because I lead a alliance that they where in war with and encourages attacking noobs/lead a alliance than done nothing to attack noobs/ because I was a leader of a alliance that warred them
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-hypocritical-
Greenhorn
Joined: 11 Sep 2010
Location: Ireland
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Points: 81
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 18:19 |
Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:
CranK wrote:
Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:
-hypocritical- wrote:
and back on topic:
First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out - because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for [Good], and I did not speak out - because I was not [Good];
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Comparing H? to the Nazi's?
To compare a gaming action with the holocaust is frankly disgusting, irrelevant of the free speech point you're trying poorly to make.
Get a life mate.
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No Llyorn, this has never been said.. Its just a quote that doesn't relate to anything that you are saying now.. leave it.. |
CranK: "Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Jew;" is a Holocaust reference. I wont tolerate the insinuation or reference. I hope I've made myself clear to you and your pet.
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llyorn we get it, you want the threadlocked, but since you asked, I'll swap jew with with something more relevent :) but It's a faamous quote I didn't want to alter it
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bartimeus
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 18:28 |
CranK wrote:
And I do see the Irony in this.. as I wasn't such a bad person H? said I am.. So I do have people speak out for me.. A 22 pages long thread as example :) |
So Crank did bring it up.
-hypocritical- wrote:
also H? did threaten anone who helped us by saying they would be but on the "list", so no they haven't seiged me yet, but they prob will in 6 months because I attacked their noobs/attacked someone wayy weaker than me/ because I lead a alliance that they where in war with and encourages attacking noobs/lead a alliance than done nothing to attack noobs/ because I was a leader of a alliance that warred them |
I tend to find inacceptable to use possible futur action as a reason to judge someone badly. So far, all you say against H? is that it migth eventually attack us. It hasn't yet.
So far there are no recorded evidence of anyone being attacked for what they said in global or forum. Maybe they should attack those who undermines their reputation, since letting you speak freely doesn't seam to work.
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KillerPoodle
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Joined: 23 Feb 2010
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 18:32 |
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The entire quote is about the rise of the Nazi's and their purges of various groups - it doesn't matter if you change words - it's completely inappropriate in it's entirety.
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-hypocritical-
Greenhorn
Joined: 11 Sep 2010
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Points: 81
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 18:32 |
bartimeus wrote:
CranK wrote:
And I do see the Irony in this.. as I wasn't such a bad person H? said I am.. So I do have people speak out for me.. A 22 pages long thread as example :) |
So Crank did bring it up.
-hypocritical- wrote:
also H? did threaten anone who helped us by saying they would be but on the "list", so no they haven't seiged me yet, but they prob will in 6 months because I attacked their noobs/attacked someone wayy weaker than me/ because I lead a alliance that they where in war with and encourages attacking noobs/lead a alliance than done nothing to attack noobs/ because I was a leader of a alliance that warred them
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I tend to find inacceptable to use possible futur action as a reason to judge someone badly.
So far, all you say against H? is that it migth eventually attack us. It hasn't yet.
So far there are no recorded evidence of anyone being attacked for what they said in global or forum. Maybe they should attack those who undermines their reputation, since letting you speak freely doesn't seam to work.
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I didn't say that, I said they threaten to attack anyone who assisted us in defence,as it says near the start of this thread I , andnot just future actions, but current actions
and there is not evidence of Crank hitting newbs or doing anything particualrly bad to warrent a razing of a 22K city yet it's still happening ;)
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bartimeus
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Joined: 09 Jul 2010
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Posted: 04 Oct 2010 at 18:48 |
bartimeus wrote:
Lastly, You are implying that H? will hunt us all down one by one... Thats plain nonsense. H? wants to hurt someone who was part of an hostile alliance and who tried to escape punishment by switching alliance. It doesn't matter wether he wasn't completely evil or not. How hard is that to comprehend? Any alliance would (should) do the same. |
Gosh, you've allready forgotten my last post.
You dont want to understand, you just want this thread to go on for ever. Have fun.
I won't post again in here, you don't listen. (I will read however, so feel free to answer and get the last word.)
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