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Poll Question: What do you think of the changes that allow everyone to see Centrum?
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    Posted: 25 Feb 2015 at 19:25
Yes, the update to Centrum visibility was much appreciated. It has made local purchasing easier again.
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Thank Devs for listening! I guess this topic can probably be closed and/or moved to "Implemented"
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I posted a reply to "Trade in Hedgor's Haven". The same points I made there, and have seen made in some of the responses to this thread, can be found    Here.    
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I think Centrum visibility was the right decision. Let's be honest, the entire hub trade system is a failed experiment. It has left us with the same thing we had before, a global market space, but one that was needlessly complicated to gain access to. 

The devs seem to realize this, and thankfully they rectified it by giving everyone access to Centrum, and the ability to fulfill orders. An essential step to make the game more accessible to new players, who have enough on their plate without having to figure out all the convoluted steps in this glaring failure of a trade system.

The minor inconvenience some players have in viewing local orders doesn't weigh up to that necessity.


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I only have a trader in Centrum, to compare prices basically to service a few other hubs. Prices from visible TOWNS are extremely higher than trader hubs, so obviously one uses the trader hubs. I would purchase more if they were available in any hub closer to me the items that Centrum has. I think CENTRUM should be available for the newbie circles for basics before they move.. they learn to USE hubs in this sense.
I liked the idea someone mentioned that Centrum offer comparison prices in other hubs for those not near Centrum and leave Centrum for the local players vision for purchase, i.e. not near Centrum a few hundred squares, you won't be able to buy from Centrum but you see the items in visible hubs near you. Stop the monopoly Centrum has.
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@Angrim: Why list in local hubs? Because proximity offers convenience. Centrum will always be the main bazaar for crafted items because they are small and easy to transport. To a certain extent Centrum will also dominate advanced resource transactions. Bulk building materials are better to acquire in local hubs because the volume is large, requiring many transports, and the distance is a significant factor unless prestige is involved.

To be clear, my complaint here is not the dominance of Centrum (as others have stated). My grievance is that adding permanent Centrum visibility screwed up a valuable function of the Markets screen--the ability to sort by price while viewing only hubs and towns within a particular city's local trade radius. It was a function I used often when purchasing basic resources and selling excess food to my neighbors.

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Originally posted by Jejune Jejune wrote:

The reason why I think the devs conceived of this was also because Centrum still remains the only hub in the game where you can buy almost anything; most other hubs offer paltry selections.
while it was not the cause, the special treatment Centrum receives from the game certainly exacerbates this problem. why list in the local hubs when i can have universal exposure at Centrum?
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Centrum has almost total dominance and that is bad for other hubs.
But the main problem is that there just aren't enough traders or demand for crafted items to make trading a worthwhile exercise.  Most people have figured out that it is better just to equip commanders and just build more military units rather than equip the whole unit with crafted gear.
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It offers sellers a way to dispose of excess basics in a quick local order. Much more convenient than shipping to Centrum. The local hubs in the desert seem less active, but I would be happy to fetch my own resources from a nearby hub sell order, if they existed.
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As someone who sells basic resources, I don't know why you have the expectation that you will be able to pay trade hub prices for me to use my vans to deliver the goods (which is a big difference from the hub, where you have to pick stuff up).

Perhaps you live in an area where there are a lot of local sellers of basic resources, but usually I don't ship basics more than 200 squares away for less than 1 gold per unit.  It's just not worth wasting my caravan carrying time.

For basic resource city orders, what you're paying for is the convenience of having caravans deliver, so if you ever had the experience of paying hub order prices for city to city delivery of basics, that wouldn't be consistent with my general experience of trade in basics.

As a seller of basics, I'd rather ship stuff to my local hubs for indefinite storage than ship them 500 squares for less than 1 gold per unit.  With or without Centrum visibility.
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