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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Aug 2010 at 01:28
Originally posted by king eam king eam wrote:

Ok, I am sick of all of this it is being blown out of proportion just because we are protecting a member
(finn) from BC and his alliance, we won the war and now you are just complaining that you don't like our terms witch were you and your members join our alliance and be under surveillance from finn so you dont try to revolt against us (maybe pay some war reparations for troops lost, like some spears)
Finn lost 600 troops. I lost 400. I dont know who told you the other things but whoever did was wrong. Now you just badmouth our alliance because you lost a war.
And NO it wasnt for Fun, we were protecting one of our members.


Lets put that out a little more for the public now...

Your terms are unacceptable, in my opinion.  No matter the reason.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 22:53
And it was 3 against 4 only me finn attacked but then sythinor can in at the end.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 22:44
so 1000 troops cost 175k gold ?  Only being a merchant and no magic and no troops over 100 is "supervised". Get over your self EAM, you choose to listen to one who has done nothing but bring your own guild down. Good job you peace'd a guild and still attacked them. Oh that is right your "peace" by accidentally hitting the wrong button El oh EL.

You were protecting him from what exactly ? from troops building up in our cities to defend from Finn ? wow i did not know those troops in a city defending were such a threat. YOUR member made all the attacks. end of story, so quit trying to save face, the whole community has seen the evidence, and have found you to be int eh wrong, hell your very own good friend even told you it was wrong.


Rationalize it how you want, but your guild is full of gold beggars and liars, nice guild ya got there bro. I will see you soon. Cause i am in your stack.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 22:33
Ok, I am sick of all of this it is being blown out of proportion just because we are protecting a member
(finn) from BC and his alliance, we won the war and now you are just complaining that you don't like our terms witch were you and your members join our alliance and be under surveillance from finn so you dont try to revolt against us (maybe pay some war reparations for troops lost, like some spears)
Finn lost 600 troops. I lost 400. I dont know who told you the other things but whoever did was wrong. Now you just badmouth our alliance because you lost a war.
And NO it wasnt for Fun, we were protecting one of our members.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 18:29
Originally posted by iluvpie3 iluvpie3 wrote:

[QUOTE=Kumomoto]
 
 
you'd have to talk to EAM on that one.I dont know the whole story,how and why he did it is a mystery to all of us,and i couldnt get an answer out of him.Ask casino and see if he knows what happened there.
 
 


I can shed light on that.

These are PM's sent to me from EAM, they are not altered and i can take a screen shot of it to prove it if needed.

This was the first one i got from eam.
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Sent By:King EAM
Received By:Big Casino
Sent:21AUG10 15:32
Subject:war


ok i understand now that is it just a big misunderstanding i think we should have peace but i have to consult with the rest of my alliance
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Sent By:King EAM
Received By:Big Casino
Sent:21AUG10 15:53
Subject:Re: Re: war


> ------------------------------------------
> Sent By: Big Casino
> Received By: King EAM
> Sent: 21AUG10 15:50
> Subject: Re: war
> Message: That would be fine, but your man cost me and my alliance ALOT in damages. So i would rather see him dumped so my guys can get what they are owed or have him pay back what he took. It is up to you. I wont pursue any retaliation on your alliance, since it was him who dragged you into it.
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> Sent By: King EAM
> Received By: Big Casino
> Sent: 21AUG10 15:32
> Subject: war
> Message:
ok i understand now that is it just a big misunderstanding i think we should have peace but i have to consult with the rest of my alliance


I will make him have to him pay you back or be kicked would you like to merge and form a huge alliance where we would share the power

as you see, the war was over in EAM's eyes and he wanted us to merge into this to form a bigger alliance.
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Sent By:King EAM
Received By:Big Casino
Sent:21AUG10 19:21
Subject:Re: Re: peace


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> Sent By: Big Casino
> Received By: King EAM
> Sent: 21AUG10 19:16
> Subject: Re: peace
> Message: so you end the war and now i have Finn doing a full attack....i expect him to be boot for this cause i am going to destroy him now.
> ------------------------------------------
> Sent By: King EAM
> Received By: Big Casino
> Sent: 21AUG10 15:59
> Subject: peace
> Message:
i have a army already on route and i cant stop it in time so i will ship the resources back to the city (howdy)



i told him to stop


as you can see their own leader said to stop and he did not. The attacks kept coming AFTER peace was set.

I have presented much evidence against this un-just war.  There are many many many more PM's i can post if more proof is needed that my 4 man alliance is the victim and un-justly war'd upon.

Finnagas has manipulated EO and their lack of leadership has let it happen.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 14:29

Thumbs Up Ivo's post.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 14:18
agree whit von forge.
100% truth  in his words 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 05:31
Originally posted by iluvpie3 iluvpie3 wrote:

Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Not that it's any of my business, but how do you "accidentally declare a war over"???
 
 
 
you'd have to talk to EAM on that one.I dont know the whole story,how and why he did it is a mystery to all of us,and i couldnt get an answer out of him.Ask casino and see if he knows what happened there.

Accidental, my eye!
EAM - being a friend of mine, and knowing that I was communicating with BC in an attempt to mediate a peaceful understanding between my current friends (EAM and Sheo) and a potential new one (BC) - contacted me asking my opinion.

I had already determined by talking with BC that Finnegas' refusal to accept BCs repeated attempts to end the hostilities that BC admits starting was the cause of the current drama.

So, in answer to EAM's request for advice, I suggested EAM make peace with BC and get Finn under control or out of EO.

 He took my advice on peace with BC, but sadly, he failed to accomplish either of the options I suggested concerning Finn.

Meanwhile, Sheo decided he would rabidly defend his alliance members (honorable and admirable, in and of itself) even when he knows they are totally wrong (unacceptable). He warned BC that hiring mercs against Finn would be an act of war against EO. This would only be true if the leadership of EO failed to rid themselves of this bad apple which was rotting the reputation of the whole alliance and continues to do so. If Finn was no longer in EO, no action against Finn would be an action against EO.

Somewhere along the way, Finn and Sheo managed to sway EAM to their line of thinking that alliance members should be defended, even against justice.

I wish I had said so before, when it was obvious only to me and BC...a prophecy after the fact is public isnt much of a prophecy...but I knew very early on that if allowed to stay in EO, Finn would destroy all the work my friends had done to build a respectable alliance.

And now they have crafty and hammy begging for resources, hastening the demise, if not of the alliance, at least of the alliance's reputation.

I've suggested to EAM and Sheo privately, and now I do so publicly: Get rid of Finn, or your alliance will suffer. Now I add the names of crafty and hammy. This is not a threat, I will not take any action against my friends. But the wheels of justice move fast and hard in Illyriad, as evidenced by the demise of MK. And so, because I value my friends and their alliance, I say publicly; Finnegas, Hammy, and Crafty must be kicked from EO for the sake of the survival of the alliance.

(edited for easier reading and enhance concision)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 01:50
BC doesn't seem to be an eloquent talker, but somehow he's doing a good job of making himself sound better than iluvpie3.  I haven't heard any proper justification for EO's actions yet.  Sounds like a clear case of bullying.  I don't buy the "accidentally canceled the war" excuse.  And who do you think you are? H? giving terms like that?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Aug 2010 at 00:58
I call for a public trial! 
Finnegas vs. Big Casino (UK1)
Settle on a date and time, assemble your teams / witnesses, and someone appoint themselves unbiased Judge.
Your jury will  be your peers.
You will both be defendent and prosecution.
This will probably get out of hand very quickly, so the date will have to be after we get new chat channels, so we don't have to ban-hammer you on global.
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