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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Nov 2013 at 18:32
Why is the  war being fought - vCrow leader says it best in answer Kumo's request for discussion and peace. I personally thank him for at least being honest about vCrow's intention for the war - 
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Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Ok. Let's talk about how small alliances fight. or Medium ones. Because almost everyone agrees that this game shouldn't stifle the ability for small or medium alliances to have fun wars?

I'm suggesting a parley to avoid the holocaust that is facing us. And I suggest Angrim as the mediator. (sorry for not asking you first, but you are the most neutral person I can think of that everyone respects!).
Originally posted by Tamaeon<span style=line-height: 1.4;> Tamaeon wrote:


No, lets NOT talk about how small alliances fight. illyriad is a strategy game, and people should be free to pursue their goals and interests without the expressed blessing of the self appointed arbiters of the Elgea.

.../snip/...

You've played the game, and you've made the wrong moves for your own selfish reasons. Now you're staring down a barrel, and you know your defeat is drawing near. There's no use in trying to control the narrative. Just accept your fate, and the inevitability of defeat. You've had a great run as the #1 alliance of the server, and now you're facing your biggest challenge yet. Will you fight like the farmer soldiers you are (lol), or continue these futile attempts at delaying the inevitable?


Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:


If this is truly about NC and people's impression of them as bullies, then let's get this all out on the table. In H?, we've always seen NC as a small ally who is having fun playing the game, and do not understand the huge backlash, but we want to listen to everyone's comments. 

Can we not come to some sort of agreement where small/medium (and perhaps large) alliances can sometimes play the war aspects of this game without causing Armageddon.
Originally posted by Tamaeon<span style=line-height: 1.4;> Tamaeon wrote:

No we can't, and we shouldn't. Its all in the game, and you need to accept this.
You tied your own fate to that of NC. By your own words, you said you would NEVER allow them to go down. You made your bet, and now you'll be "going down" with them!

Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:


Because, make no mistakes... if we go down this path without any diplomacy, we are going to be a perpetual bloodbath for the indefinite future... And I'm not sure that most of us want that...
Originally posted by Tamaeon<span style=line-height: 1.4;> Tamaeon wrote:

Well be that as it may, its exactly where you have lead us... oh great H?!
I'm sure you know that this war won't take very long, and even if it does... the prospect of chasing each other around the map seems rather amusing! LOL


in closing!

THIS IS AN HONEST APPEAL TO REASON.

Illyriad is simply a game. Games are meant to be played, sometimes you win, and other times you lose. That is all, thank you for your time and attention! Beer



It is funny because Tams arrogance is only equalled by his pride (for what I really have no idea) and is easily and readily seen in his posting. I leave his word to speak for themself.

However there is something that I wanted to address specifically because Tam is trying so hard to be as honest as possible without making himself exactly like what he describes H as doing. Note again he statement:

Originally posted by Tamaeon Tamaeon wrote:

No, lets NOT talk about how small alliances fight. illyriad is a strategy game, and people should be free to pursue their goals and interests without the expressed blessing of the self appointed arbiters of the Elgea.

If the above is true.. then WHY pray-tell are supposedly so upset with NC much less H. Did he not JUST say about battle, wars. etc... - "People should be free to pursue their goals and interests without the expressed blessing of the self-appointed arbiters of he Elgea".. that is of course unless you are NC, or H or some other group that you disagree with :D




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2013 at 03:23
point of information:  Tamaeon is uCrow, not vCrow.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2013 at 06:30
Originally posted by Angrim Angrim wrote:

point of information:  Tamaeon is uCrow, not vCrow.


Another person who can post just a pure fact without any spin. My vote goes to him for a mediator as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2013 at 06:30
Originally posted by Gragnog Gragnog wrote:

Originally posted by Angrim Angrim wrote:

point of information:  Tamaeon is uCrow, not vCrow.


Another person who can post just a pure fact without any spin. My vote goes to him for a mediator as well.


Wait, who is Angrim again?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2013 at 07:03
Angrim is a rook of eCrow. Along with Kenyl (and the support of our wing), he has elected to have eCrow remain neutral in the present conflict. There is a post somewhere on this forum where he states his reasons for not joining the war despite the participation of other crow alliances.

While Angrim is a very level-headed player, it seems unlikely that a rook of a crow alliance could be considered purely neutral in this conflict. I personally consider him to be fair and patient, but that's obviously a biased opinion given that I'm a member of his alliance.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2013 at 09:26
Originally posted by Brandmeister Brandmeister wrote:

Angrim is a rook of eCrow. Along with Kenyl (and the support of our wing), he has elected to have eCrow remain neutral in the present conflict. There is a post somewhere on this forum where he states his reasons for not joining the war despite the participation of other crow alliances.

While Angrim is a very level-headed player, it seems unlikely that a rook of a crow alliance could be considered purely neutral in this conflict. I personally consider him to be fair and patient, but that's obviously a biased opinion given that I'm a member of his alliance.


Yeah I actually knew that. Was just messing around. Thanks for the info though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 2013 at 09:43
... and again the unfriendlyness starts and people start talking for others by quoting out of context... *sigh*

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 2013 at 10:36
Originally posted by Brandmeister Brandmeister wrote:

While Angrim is a very level-headed player, it seems unlikely that a rook of a crow alliance could be considered purely neutral in this conflict.

I wonder if anyone is still distant enough from the conflict to consider themselves neutral.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 2013 at 10:42
Pick me Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 2013 at 10:56
Originally posted by Halcyon Halcyon wrote:

Pick me Wink

Nah, pick me. I am more peaceful. Tongue
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