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Leungarific
Wordsmith
Joined: 28 Jun 2010
Location: Hong Kong
Status: Offline
Points: 114
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Posted: 09 Aug 2011 at 08:21 |
They certainly are. However, using a sat account to wage your own vendetta against someone is quite a different situation.
Whoever is sitting Borg and Zork2010, if indeed Borg is being sat, is
using those to accounts to attack a target, keeping their own account
safe behind the scenes. As Iduna said, she doesn't believe Roller would
do such a thing, so in all likelihood, it's not him.
This does however leave us with the fact that this player is the one
most likely to have been stealing from countless players through the
accounts he/she is sitting. Quite surprising how LH surfaces around the
same time, although he may have been drawn here by the smell of blood in
the water...
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Whence we cometh foreth youeth, youeth willeth knoweth iteth. - AnalrotsAnIStinkAlot
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Divine Redemption
Greenhorn
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 68
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Posted: 09 Aug 2011 at 12:36 |
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Roller (his alt is Spirit) is real life friends with Zork and Borg. He plays poker with them almost every weekend in Oklahoma.
During the days when Roller's S&B alliance was forced to join other alliances to survive, Roller and Borg joined WOTP (now called Curse) and Zork joined The Crow. Since Roller was (and still is) real life friends with Zork and Borg, these two players allowed Roller to control their accounts via sitter.
You all have to remember that I was a high ranking official in Curse. So I know the behaviors of all the players that were in Curse at the time when I left. I knew which players had players sit for their accounts.
Iduna, much like Roller, sits for ALOT of accounts, that much is true. Iduna is the first player to stand up for Roller only because if not for Roller, Iduna would have never got to the 10th city and if not for Roller, most of the Curse players would have not increased their pop as fast as they did. Roller loved to send resources to players so the Curse alliance would increase their population and move up in rankings. Thus Roller is a farmer in real life, thus why he loves to gather resources and send them to other players to help them grow.
The new sitting account rule was put in place to stop players like Iduna and Roller from exploiting the sitting account system. Iduna and Roller took over accounts from players that quit the game and used them pretty much as their own accounts.
So yes, Roller has a history of sitting for accounts of players that quit the game altogether.
Roller is real life friends with the two accounts in question... Why has Roller not been in here to defend himself? Why can't Roller tell you all who Zork and Borg had sit for his account? It is because Roller/Spirit is the sitter for the account.
Iduna does not want to lose one of her prized members even though Roller is the sitter for those accounts.
Let me say it again.... Roller is real life friends with Borg and Zork. Roller is real life friends with Borg and Zork.
Roller has a history of taking over accounts that no longer has their original owner controlling the account anymore. Roller has a history of taking over accounts that no longer has their original owner controlling their account anymore.
Roller has taken over accounts such as Snow, Borg, Zork, Infestion to use for his own vendetta to take out players of his choosing.
Roller hides in Curse so he can save his main account and be able to do what he wants with his friends accounts. Iduna is letting all of this happen because she has a history of letting some of her own members leave the alliance to attack another alliance as long as they come back after they have gotten their revenge.
People, please pretend I am not Lionz Heartz and Divine Redemption. I know who the sitter is, the sitter is Roller.
I am not here to cause havoc, I am merely here to get the fact straights and tell all who are interested that Roller is indeed the player responsible for the attacks.
But I must say, the sitting rule is a great victory for the game already as exploiters such at Roller and Iduna must hide behind their own accounts now instead of another players to do their ill damage.
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Iduna
Wordsmith
Joined: 30 Aug 2010
Location: Holland
Status: Offline
Points: 141
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Posted: 09 Aug 2011 at 15:14 |
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looks like the record is stuck, or did someone press repeat ??
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Selissa
Wordsmith
Joined: 09 Mar 2011
Location: Denmark
Status: Offline
Points: 169
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Posted: 09 Aug 2011 at 15:18 |
Iduna wrote:
looks like the record is stuck, or did someone press repeat ?? |
Aww, come one, Iduna! Be nice, I have missed him accusing Curse of everything from spying to pushing old ladies into the traffic!
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Selissa
Proud member of Curse of the Wolves
I'm an angel, honest! The horns are just there to keep the halo straight!
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The_Dude
Postmaster General
Joined: 06 Apr 2010
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 2396
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Posted: 09 Aug 2011 at 16:38 |
LH says: " People, please pretend I am not Lionz Heartz and Divine Redemption."
That's rich. I am reminded of a little boy that once cried wolf.
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Dhenna
Wordsmith
Joined: 09 Jun 2011
Location: Denmark
Status: Offline
Points: 156
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Posted: 09 Aug 2011 at 17:05 |
Hmmm....if Roller is RL friends with Borg and Zork2010 why doesn't he just get their passwords so the whole sitter change wouldn't affect him?
Oh wait, maybe he did!
Just pointing out some flawed argumentation.
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KillerPoodle
Postmaster General
Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 1853
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Posted: 09 Aug 2011 at 17:19 |
The_Dude wrote:
LH says: "People, please pretend I am not Lionz Heartz and Divine Redemption."
That's rich. I am reminded of a little boy that once cried wolf. |
Disagree - the boy who cried wolf was right once.
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"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM
"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill
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Divine Redemption
Greenhorn
Joined: 23 Aug 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 68
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Posted: 09 Aug 2011 at 17:23 |
Dhenna wrote:
Hmmm....if Roller is RL friends with Borg and Zork2010 why doesn't he just get their passwords so the whole sitter change wouldn't affect him?
Oh wait, maybe he did!
Just pointing out some flawed argumentation. |
If Roller were to log-in as Borg and Zork with their username and passwords, Roller would get two accounts suspended (Roller and Spirit) if the GMs ever found out. A player can have only two accounts even if they may have friends. Too avoid this suspension issue, Roller can sit for their accounts to avoid the suspension.
Edited by Divine Redemption - 09 Aug 2011 at 17:24
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 6903
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Posted: 10 Aug 2011 at 03:22 |
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/me wonders why all this is so important to Divine Redemption since he/she does not appear to have a dawg in this fight
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Jefke
New Poster
Joined: 08 Jun 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 26
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Posted: 10 Aug 2011 at 08:00 |
and it seems that the accusations were proof enough to allow attacks to S&B accounts that were not even mentionned... not just mine ... no warnings, no questions, no wars declared, just diplomats in small numbers & big waves from seemingly unconnected alliances, and 3 incoming armies as from this morning. A bit inconsistent from the ones claiming the moral high ground - no? Anyway I've discussed the "sitting situation" with Borg... and I think we can speak for the both of us when I say that; 1) sitting should indeed be limited further to avoid abuse 2) 90% of that limitation can be achieved by publicly publishing --> who is sitting for who --> who has been offline for a while (I think this info is/was already available somewhere) I've been playing Illy for some time now - if this is the end... so be it ...  happens, then you die Jefke
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