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Southern Dwarf 
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Joined: 28 Sep 2011 Status: Offline Points: 281 |
 Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 18:05 |
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Also known as Afaslizo ingame.
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Drejan
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Joined: 30 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 234 |
Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 18:13 |
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mysteries, magic and building?
-Mysteries required troops or diplo in almost all events. -Magic for what? Attack enemy cities or bless our to support more troops? Even future magic is about battle magic... -Building again for what? I've not said this only war game but again if this would have been a build game devs would have introduced lot of things that usually you see in manager or sim-city games! And you did not anwer to my question about economy.
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dunnoob
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Joined: 10 Dec 2011 Location: Elijal Status: Offline Points: 800 |
Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 18:16 |
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This is a serious war game. I have the most fun with trading, because players with less than 100K troops, or less than 200K pop, or only two graduated commanders, have no business in "serious" wars, but I can see the light at the end of the long long newb-tunnel, "soon", next year.
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Southern Dwarf
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 18:17 |
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Because I don't care about the economy. Actually I use the spells to help people and diplo for mysteries.
I got fun with building and magic. Do I need reasons aside from this? |
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Also known as Afaslizo ingame.
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belargyle
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Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 401 |
Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 18:18 |
Many people over look one of the deeper portions of the game and see only the surface 'war' (defined as physical attack to destroy units, or castle of another player). A LARGE part of Illy is the community and thus diplomacy is what this game is equally about. This is the part that flows beneath the surface of the game and keeps it moving. It is the secret blood of the Illy animal. Not many really understand the game because they leave this side out, which is like covering one of your own eyes - making you half blind. What is right is typically right in the one who is describing their position, whether you agree or not. Truth is not relative, but opinions on what that truth might be, are. This game has a FULL history of people making half baked claims to justify actions, and the truth is most often half the community will agree with you and half the other. Their are those rare events where everyone looks at you like you are the village idiot, though.. and those 'have' happened in the past.. and those alliances are no longer with us. (TMM is a good example) Again, just stating that diplomacy is as equal a part of the game as war and peace.
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Drejan
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 18:18 |
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I can argue that you are actually helping other for troops.
But even if, good you'r having fun in a war game without using troops, good for you, this make the game not war-game?
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Southern Dwarf
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 18:22 |
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Not for me. If it is a war game for you that is your choice. The point is that everyone may decide for themselves how to play and no one dictates it to them. Does it matter for you that other people do not see this game as a war game? And if yes then why?
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Also known as Afaslizo ingame.
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Elmindra
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Joined: 10 Sep 2012 Status: Offline Points: 464 |
Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 18:22 |
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It doesn't matter what you decide to label Illy as, since anyone can play and play it in any fashion they wish. If a person wishes to play at war and attack people he is more than welcome to. Same if someone wishes to not build troops at all. That doesn't mean that because the game allows something you are justified and without wrong in doing so. People in multiplayer games are judged by their peers and the only reason they seek justification in their actions is because they care what others think. Everyone should play Illy as they please. That includes some members not condoning other's actions.
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Drejan
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Joined: 30 Sep 2010 Status: Offline Points: 234 |
Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 18:22 |
I agree, Diplomacy is really fun in illyriad, but it's a direct conseguence of troops, you would not see this level of diplomacy or propaganda without war meccanics! I'm not talking of how people like to have fun, what i think is the game basic meccanics are a war-game one. Anyone is than free to play as he like.
Edited by Drejan - 12 Oct 2012 at 18:23 |
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belargyle
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Joined: 17 Jun 2010 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 401 |
Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 18:22 |
I disagree, not with "the game is what we make it", but with "it reflects who we are". This is patently untrue.. it reflects how we play not who we are. It's a game, so playing as we enjoy allows us to respect ourselves in the morning. Now whether or not 'you' respect them, that is another story altogether.
Edited by belargyle - 12 Oct 2012 at 18:25 |
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