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KillerPoodle 
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 Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 17:26 |
 Southern Dwarf wrote:
Better to miss something than to be taking the fun of others away. |
And there-in lies the debate. One position is that the peaceful people should be able to dictate how the non-peaceful want to play. The other position is that the non-peaceful people should be able to dictate how the peaceful people want to play.
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Drejan
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 17:23 |
Southern Dwarf wrote:
Are you sure? I got pretty much to do in game without fighting. If you think the world empty look again. |
Withou any attack NPC or player, there would be no economy, all the economy is based on troops equipment or creation or upkeep. Without troops lost no one would need anything in the market, so no one would sell. I do not say a game could not work without fights, but illyriad is build on them.
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Southern Dwarf
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 17:20 |
Drejan wrote:
Southern Dwarf wrote:
Better to miss something than to be taking the fun of others away. |
Actually i'm not talking of players wars, that might be NPC fights too. But this is a war game, wihout fights there would be no game at all. And sandbox is not an excuse, there's no game in an emty sandbox... |
Are you sure? I got pretty much to do in game without fighting. If you think the world empty look again.
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Also known as Afaslizo ingame.
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Anjire
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 17:20 |
Bonaparta wrote:
There are many competent scientific theories that claim human interspecies hostility is the most important factor in development of human intelligence...
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This was a major theme in almost all of Frank Herbert's books.
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Bonaparta
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 17:18 |
Illyriad is a war game, no doubt about that. All actions you can do are directly or indirectly linked to gaining power of different kinds, mostly military power. For majority of human history war was considered pinnacle of all human activities, because to be triumphant in war you need to develop every aspect of society... good economy, technology, science, diplomacy, trade,... There are many competent scientific theories that claim human interspecies hostility is the most important factor in development of human intelligence...
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Drejan
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 17:17 |
Southern Dwarf wrote:
Better to miss something than to be taking the fun of others away. |
Actually i'm not talking of players wars, that might be NPC fights too. But this is a war game, wihout fights there would be no game at all. And sandbox is not an excuse, there's no game in an emty sandbox...
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Southern Dwarf
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 17:14 |
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Better to miss something than to be taking the fun of others away.
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Also known as Afaslizo ingame.
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KillerPoodle
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 17:11 |
Elmindra wrote:
But I have a problem with half baked attempts to justify actions in order to sway public opinion in order to self justify even further actions.
Just my 2c |
But that's part of the game too. The diplomacy, the intrigue, the private pacts, the posturing, the backstabbing, the claims of being a peaceful group of folks who just want to "get along" and "help each other out". If all you do is build your cities, harvest resources, kill some NPC's and participate in the odd tourney then you're missing out on a lot of what this game has to offer...
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"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM
"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill
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Drejan
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 17:07 |
I do not want to talk about what it's happening now, it's a general discussion that might be valid from now to the end of illyriad!
Rill wrote:
It reflects who we are. |
NO! It's a game! But let's split the discussion:
I respect myself every morning Rill but enjoy play a wargame. This is not my life for sure
Edited by Drejan - 12 Oct 2012 at 17:10
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Rill
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Posted: 12 Oct 2012 at 16:56 |
This game is what we make of it. It reflects who we are. Hopefully we are the sort of people who can respect ourselves in the morning. 
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