war declarations on WE

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 The_Dude wrote:

 scaramouche wrote:

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the only attempted siege i can recall was by a certain player called skorn who joined us recently before the said "siege". 
the only notice any of our alliance got of this was himself saying in AC that a RES player had settled/exodused too close to him and he wasnt happy, but by then he had already sent the siege to which shortly after RES destroyed it.
very shortly after this he himself was discharged from our alliance for his actions.
no matter what way you try to spin it..he was dealt with in the only appropriate way that we could of done so.
*** On October 15, 2012, WE member Skorn sieged RES member Harry Gihan's city Harrys Eei on the pretense that it was within 5 sqs of a WE city.  In fact, it was over 8 sqs from the nearest WE city at that time.  

Note re: Skorn: Skorn is an account that Jezma inherited from the original account holder in June 2010.  I late summer 2012, Jezma passed Skorn to a newbie Mufridaz.  On October 15, 2012 Murfridaz was WET not WE.

WE did not kick Skorn until October 20, 2012 - 5 days after the siege and 4 days AFTER RES had withdrawn from peace discussions and war was imminent.  The only reason WE kicked Skorn at this late date was in a failed attempt to avert war.  WET retained Mufridaz as a member until October 24, 2012 - kicking him 4 hours AFTER RES declared war on WE.

Additionally, WE attempted to pass the lie that Skorn recalled the siege voluntarily.

On November 1, 2012 VALAR invited Skorn to join them.  On November 3, 2012 VALAR and WE Confed. On November 5, 2012 VALAR entered the war.

Skorn remains a member of Consone and is under Consone's protection.  Arguing that the "kick" was appropriate and sufficient satisfaction to RES is absurd. 

I can tell you exactly what happend that day skorn tried to siege a member and will admit he didnt try to recall the siege voluntarily," I " told him to recall it the moment he said  he sent a siege, being as your player settled 8 squares from him (which while he was ranting about him being too close, even I told him 8 squares was liveable and told him I myself had neighbours that close but it didnt affect or bother me)
but like i said earlier, he told me it was to late to recall, and please dont be so naive TD, ofc we wanted to avoid any conflict, why would we want to antagonise anyone else after so shortly after becoming involved in the bigger war?
As for him still being in consone has nothing to do with us, no matter how many times we have said that you still keep bringing that up.
we kicked skorn..nuff said on the matter
the ratboy sov issue, as far as im aware when he took those points you was mailed about it and the response i heard we got was a negative and aloof reply.therefore forcing our hand.
you maybe right with the dates of settling but they settled 8 squares from RB which even by your standards is a fair distance considering some of your players have done likewise, but taking the dolmens was a little too far...
And if your also saying cos RB was in south tor before ray and grunt so therefore you have all rights to that area, can i remind you I was there along time before him.