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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Oct 2011 at 10:50

Very briefly logging in from underway, can't stay online much at all, can't even manage to read all inbox mails.

I will be delayed one day, only back in town Saturday afternoon/evening, not Friday afternoon as initially planned.

Looks like Kurdruk will have to handle it all one extra day. Sorry.

...

H? and mCrow have offered peace, it has been accepted, combined with the previous peace offerings from PA and Curse, that brings the total of ended wars to four out of seven.

Remaining wars are with : Wheel of Time [WoT], Dwarven Lords [Dlord], Eternal Champions [Champ].



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DOts, your ignorance is amazing but not uncommon.
Originally posted by dots dots wrote:

oh my beloved,
 
1. your new attacks are not a surprise, I posted them to let other players know what u're doing and because I liked very much the idea of stone throwers. Don't you like it?
Why? It is done out and in the open. If anyone asks I will tell them. It's no secret.. but maybe you didn't know that
 
pquote]2. some players decided (on their own) that your alliance is a bunch of bullies so sent their armies to help me, quite straight. I'm surprised that a so fine strategist like you needed a clarification. Let me thank again and again all these players because i don't know if I will be able to repay their help[/quote]
No bullying whatsoever. You were told how to avoid this but you chose to this option. We are merely helping you along with YOUR choice. If we are such bullies, we invite them to engage us. It would be just and right to do so IF their claim had merit. but since it doesn't.. well..
 
9quote]3. me creating forces? your limitless limits always surprise me. I'll try to explain slowly (you cannot see me but I'm typing slowly... LOL) so that you can follow:
Quote a. this war began when I was trying to reach 10 cities.
Good.
 
Quote b. Now u will be enlighted on the great and dark mystery of 'rebuilding armies' in my stuck cities.
No dark mystery.. you built them and we killed them.
 
Quote 1. when you attacked me, you forgot to destroy armies in gg... so I moved some to a city under attack and (...rolling drums...) u assisted to the magic of 'building armies in stuck cities'
But that does not change the fact of my statement, that you were not defenceless as you lied about. It was not that you had - no armies - as you kept repeating. I was merely showing that you not only had 'some' but that you also built others. Proof is given in your own statement here and below. You contradicted the verasity of your own tale. In looking for sympathy you lied and I simply set the record straight. You never spoke with or to us with the exception of a 'yes'. WHo is to say you didn't send your armies out to defend Valar and they were wiped out? Since you didn't speak with us or communicate ANYTHING.. you continued to be hit. Even after you were given an out.. you chose to stay.
 
Quote 2. now the second magic. it happened that one of my sieged cities was sufficiently lowered in pop that I could build some troops (it was about 10 bowmen and 10 spears) that was promptly destroyed by your multiple armies.
 
Wrong.. you built more than that but not many.. about a hundred or so. But THAT is not why you were being attacked so try another route. My point was that you lied about not having any troops in your cities. Granted they weren't many, but again, who knew if they were all killed in defending Valar or on their way home.
 
Example of units you had and city they were in
> FW: Scout Mission to cc Completely Successful!
> Received: 27 set 2011 01:21
> Original Message:
Operation From: [Dlord]
Operation Against: cc at [313|-275] in Perrigor dots [VALAR]
Operation Type: Scout
Operation Outcome: Completely Successful!

Mission Report:
Your diplomatic mission was undetected and completed the objective! Your units are on their way home, safe and sound.

Information Gathered:

Troop levels present, belonging to player:
Type: Unit: Quantity:
Army: Army V
Division: III Artillery
Commander: Sylir Elven Trueshots Elven Trueshot 1
Division: I Cavalry
Commander: Yramrag Marshals Marshal 1
Troops: Marshals Marshals 82
Division: V Infantry
Army: Army VI
Division: I Soldiers
Commander: Aishwarya Marshals Marshal 1
Troops: Marshals Marshals 82
Division: II Artillery
Troops: Marshals Marshals 48
Troops: Elven Trueshots Elven Trueshots 238
Troops: Wardancers Wardancers 248
Troops: Phalanxes Phalanxes 251
Troops: Siege Hooks Siege Hooks 4
Troops: Mangonels Mangonels 5
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OR THIS ONE AS WELL ..................................
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Operation From: [Dlord]
Operation Against: gg at [330|-264] in Perrigor dots [VALAR]
Operation Type: Scout
Operation Outcome: Completely Successful!
Mission Report:
Your diplomatic mission was undetected and completed the objective! Your units are on their way home, safe and sound.

Information Gathered:

Troop levels present, belonging to player:

Type: Unit: Quantity:
Army: Army XIII

Division: Cavalry I

Troops: Marshals Marshals 61
Division: Artillery I

Commander: 2 Elven Trueshots Elven Trueshot 1
Troops: Elven Trueshots Elven Trueshots 62
Division: Infantry

Troops: Phalanxes Phalanxes 69
Troops: Wardancers Wardancers 66
Army: Army XIV

Division: Div I

Commander: 1 Marshals Marshal 1
Troops: Marshals Marshals 1
Troops: Marshals Marshals 47
Troops: Elven Trueshots Elven Trueshots 48
Troops: Wardancers Wardancers 48
Troops: Phalanxes 48
These were some of our scout reports.. so we can maintain the correct information
 
 
Quote now the 'quote the high king section':
"This course of action is of your own making" ---> no darling, it's your frustrations that lead to this
No, you chose it. I don't know why you keep whining. You were allowed to opt out.. but chose to stay in. You and only you are to blame.
 
Quote "Those post state NOTHING of anyone else being or going to be attacked" ---> right, it states you are sending more armies because you're afraid of my ghost and immortal stone throwers. but what about this mail received by Eric136(VALAR) from Keim (do u know him? it's a member of dbullies...)?
IF he was still attacking it was is news to us. If he was merely letting Erik no more attacks will coming.. that is different too.
 
 
 
Quote I really hope that you can elaborate all these information. If not, please tell me and I'll send in 2-3 chunks, ok?
Elaborated.  Besides I have already stated you were not the only person, in fact I stated we have attacked others.
 
No more needs be said.. Nice chatting with ya
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Just to be precise: account created 2 days ago.
Yeah, you noticed this change? you're so smart...
Let me explain why: in 15 months I've never attacked/been attacked so no need to post anything.
now I'm attacked by u => need to post your behaviour and let other players make an idea of you and me.
 
Simple, isn't it?
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Originally posted by dots dots wrote:

oh my beloved,
let me explain the situation, since you cannot understand by yourself:
1. your new attacks are not a surprise, I posted them to let other players know what u're doing and because I liked very much the idea of stone throwers. Don't you like it?
 
2. some players decided (on their own) that your alliance is a bunch of bullies so sent their armies to help me, quite straight. I'm surprised that a so fine strategist like you needed a clarification. Let me thank again and again all these players because i don't know if I will be able to repay their help
 
3. me creating forces? your limitless limits always surprise me. I'll try to explain slowly (you cannot see me but I'm typing slowly... LOL) so that you can follow:
a. this war began when I was trying to reach 10 cities.
b. to reach 233k pop you need an average pop of 25,888 per city (I'll do the math for you: 233000/9=25,888) or, as I wanted to do, have 8 cities with 26,700+ pop and a smaller one
c. this level of pop implies that u have a negative food production of 3-4k per hour even if you maximize everything (at least on a 5 food square). this automatically means that you have 8 cities completely stuck until u can found the 10th
 
Well, the war began when I was in this situation and I'm still in, it will take days and a lot of prestige (and no attack from bullying armies, oh sorry, i didn't want to say that you are a bully, can u forgive me?) to begin producing something more than basic res.
 
Now u will be enlighted on the great and dark mystery of 'rebuilding armies' in my stuck cities. Please sit down because the shock can kill you. Are you prepared? really? I'd hate kill an High King, not a normal one.
 
1. when you attacked me, you forgot to destroy armies in gg (it can be found at 330|-264 and I promise not to move it, so u can find it, ok?), so I moved some to a city under attack and (...rolling drums...) u assisted to the magic of 'building armies in stuck cities'
2. now the second magic. it happened that one of my sieged cities was sufficiently lowered in pop that I could build some troops (it was about 10 bowmen and 10 spears) that was promptly destroyed by your multiple armies. Please post the report if u dare to say that dbullies have the right to attack me because I built 20 troops in one city.
 
Do u want to know why I gave up building troops in sieged cities? because I want STONE THROWERS!!! Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smile
 
I know, I'm not a good magician because i reveal my tricks.
 
now the 'quote the high king section':
"This course of action is of your own making" ---> no darling, it's your frustrations that lead to this
 
"Those post state NOTHING of anyone else being or going to be attacked" ---> right, it states you are sending more armies because you're afraid of my ghost and immortal stone throwers. but what about this mail received by Eric136(VALAR) from Keim (do u know him? it's a member of dbullies...)?
 
> FW: Cease fire
> Received: 06 Oct 2011 20:44
> Original Message:

Lord Eric

Our high king has proclamed ceasefire.

I wil perform no more actions against you.

Priest Keim

 
what is it? it's the proof that until few hours ago I wasn't the only VALAR attacked.
 
I really hope that you can elaborate all these information. If not, please tell me and I'll send in 2-3 chunks, ok?
 
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uhm not helpfull at all?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Oct 2011 at 02:01
Originally posted by dots dots wrote:

 I have some observations to flipper's posts

1. "Complaints should not be issued through the forum but directly ingame to DLords leaders - ALL leaders (there's 4 of us). Anything else is just showboating and pure political maneuvering by grand-standers seeking public attention or false sympathy." ---> I'm not complaining about anything and I don't need public attention (hint: as noted by somebody, my forum account has just been created and this is my 4th post in almost 15 months of Illyriad, quite easy to understand I'm not searching attention... or not?).


Interesting that you should then choose a public location and create a public forum account in the last week ... and in so doing completely change how you have always dealt with the Illy community. An interesting change in community face that is.
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oh my beloved,
let me explain the situation, since you cannot understand by yourself:
1. your new attacks are not a surprise, I posted them to let other players know what u're doing and because I liked very much the idea of stone throwers. Don't you like it?
 
2. some players decided (on their own) that your alliance is a bunch of bullies so sent their armies to help me, quite straight. I'm surprised that a so fine strategist like you needed a clarification. Let me thank again and again all these players because i don't know if I will be able to repay their help
 
3. me creating forces? your limitless limits always surprise me. I'll try to explain slowly (you cannot see me but I'm typing slowly... LOL) so that you can follow:
a. this war began when I was trying to reach 10 cities.
b. to reach 233k pop you need an average pop of 25,888 per city (I'll do the math for you: 233000/9=25,888) or, as I wanted to do, have 8 cities with 26,700+ pop and a smaller one
c. this level of pop implies that u have a negative food production of 3-4k per hour even if you maximize everything (at least on a 5 food square). this automatically means that you have 8 cities completely stuck until u can found the 10th
 
Well, the war began when I was in this situation and I'm still in, it will take days and a lot of prestige (and no attack from bullying armies, oh sorry, i didn't want to say that you are a bully, can u forgive me?) to begin producing something more than basic res.
 
Now u will be enlighted on the great and dark mystery of 'rebuilding armies' in my stuck cities. Please sit down because the shock can kill you. Are you prepared? really? I'd hate kill an High King, not a normal one.
 
1. when you attacked me, you forgot to destroy armies in gg (it can be found at 330|-264 and I promise not to move it, so u can find it, ok?), so I moved some to a city under attack and (...rolling drums...) u assisted to the magic of 'building armies in stuck cities'
2. now the second magic. it happened that one of my sieged cities was sufficiently lowered in pop that I could build some troops (it was about 10 bowmen and 10 spears) that was promptly destroyed by your multiple armies. Please post the report if u dare to say that dbullies have the right to attack me because I built 20 troops in one city.
 
Do u want to know why I gave up building troops in sieged cities? because I want STONE THROWERS!!! Big smileBig smileBig smileBig smileBig smile
 
I know, I'm not a good magician because i reveal my tricks.
 
now the 'quote the high king section':
"This course of action is of your own making" ---> no darling, it's your frustrations that lead to this
 
"Those post state NOTHING of anyone else being or going to be attacked" ---> right, it states you are sending more armies because you're afraid of my ghost and immortal stone throwers. but what about this mail received by Eric136(VALAR) from Keim (do u know him? it's a member of dbullies...)?
 
> FW: Cease fire
> Received: 06 Oct 2011 20:44
> Original Message:

Lord Eric

Our high king has proclamed ceasefire.

I wil perform no more actions against you.

Priest Keim

 
what is it? it's the proof that until few hours ago I wasn't the only VALAR attacked.
 
I really hope that you can elaborate all these information. If not, please tell me and I'll send in 2-3 chunks, ok?
 
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THose post state NOTHING of anyone else being or going to be attacked.
Second, I told you that all military actions against those two cities will begin again. By the way, you left off my armies inbound as well. That hurt! :(
 
Lastly, you state you have no troops.. then what was used to sally-forth against Gori? Oh Yeah, and who are all those armies inbound to reinforce you?  Oh wait, they are forces that can be used to attack the siege engines with. And I noted that you left the fact out that you HAVE been creating forces, but they keep being killed off. 
 
This course of action is of your own making.
 
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here are new attacks form Gori to a city with an active siege...
 
Your inbound military movements
CountArmyActivityFromTimingCarryingView
?UnknownUnknownWarePhreak's [Dlord]
Town: 1.Stoutville
6hr 2m 10s
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?UnknownUnknownDrejan's [Dlord]
Town: 7 The Grassland
12hr 54m 33s
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?UnknownUnknownGori's [Dlord]
Town: 3. Karn Hills
16hr 37m 23s
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?UnknownUnknownGori's [Dlord]
Town: 3. Karn Hills
16hr 52m 38s
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?UnknownUnknownDrejan's [Dlord]
Town: 4 Zion
17hr 25m 55s
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?UnknownUnknownSir Bucketz's [Dlord]
Town: 2. Bucketopia
4d 10hr 20m 29s
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?UnknownUnknownWonderbread's [Dlord]
Town: Dushanbe
6d 19hr 38m 9s
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just thinking: probably my army made by 0 soldiers, 750k woods, 750k clay, 750k iron and 750k stone is strategically dangerous for an alliance like them.
Perhaps they're afraid I can bury their armies with stones and woods...
yeah, I should train some stone thrower... hey GMs, can you add a new military unit?

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Kilo,
I'm so afraid now... really... you can't see me but I'm crying
 
What will you do know? No, please, don't siege me!!! I'm asking for mercy!!!
 
oh wait... dbullies are sieging me yet... ah, ok. So what will you do? Send other siegegs? wait a second, I'll post new attacks launched by your bunch of bullies
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you aint helping your cause.
well honestly your attitude is making things worse for you.

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