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Angrim
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Joined: 02 Nov 2011
Location: Laoshin
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Posted: 24 Nov 2013 at 04:35 |
Lumelthien wrote:
Rill wrote:
You know, like it's an actual game, not some sort of expression of your inner need to express power and domination. |
The problem here is that some folks tend to import rules that they insist exist, and then resort to ad hominem when others don't agree that such rules are inherent to Illyriad.
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i'm thinking that Rill's edit denied me a lot of context for this.
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Lumelthien
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Joined: 06 Nov 2013
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Posted: 24 Nov 2013 at 03:53 |
Rill wrote:
You know, like it's an actual game, not some sort of expression of your inner need to express power and domination. |
I don't know what does or does not qualify as an actual game, but I do know that rules must exist in order for a thing to be considered a game. The problem here is that some folks tend to import rules that they insist exist, and then resort to ad hominem when others don't agree that such rules are inherent to Illyriad. This is all so very trivial and the stakes are raised by addiction to Illy as well as the time it takes to build something of any meaning. A pity. I reckon it's far easier to go out and play any number of the thousands of actual games (whatever that may be) than it is to try to argue ethics with individuals who may have drastically different world-views from me.
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Rill
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Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
Location: California
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Posted: 24 Nov 2013 at 03:19 |
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That was close, almost got sucked in here. Thanks Hath.
Edited by Rill - 24 Nov 2013 at 04:31
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HATHALDIR
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Joined: 01 Jul 2011
Location: Adelaide
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Posted: 24 Nov 2013 at 03:16 |
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Greeting Fronfor, could you please tell me how some who registered with the forums some 84 days after the launch of Illy can be considered a newb?
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There's worse blokes than me!!
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Aurordan
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Player Council - Ambassador
Joined: 21 Sep 2011
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Posted: 24 Nov 2013 at 03:14 |
Illyriad is a pretty slow paced game, and even the most cutthroat PvP players will spend most of their time building, organizing, and plotting rather than being able to just maraud around the countryside. There are war focused or imperialistic alliances hanging around, and there are tournaments every so often. It's not a constant thing, is what I'm trying to say, conflict comes in fits and starts, in between lots of preparation and rebuilding.
Also, for the record, I disagree with like half of what Brand said.
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Brandmeister
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Joined: 12 Oct 2012
Location: Laoshin
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Posted: 24 Nov 2013 at 02:29 |
fronfor wrote:
How can I have some imperialistic/conqueror's fun without being seen as douchey warmonger? |
You can join an alliance that competes in tournaments. Basically, one square in every region is a tournament square that can be held king-of-the-mountain style. Small awards are given to alliances who can hold the squares with their troops during official tournaments. The overall Illy community tends to discourage PvP. The warfare game mechanics are adequate, but peace is just the prevailing atmosphere here. The current server war is basically to decide whether or not small and medium sized alliances can engage in wars with each other, or perhaps the conventions of limited warfare when large alliances get involved. Other than the present conflict, war is a very uncommon occurrence in Illyriad. I'd wager that three-quarters of the current players will be wholly unaffected by the server war. Factions may offer more opportunities for PvE warfare, but they are not fully active yet.
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fronfor
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Joined: 15 May 2010
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Posted: 24 Nov 2013 at 01:17 |
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I'm relatively new to Illyriad, and I am wondering about something.
There are obviously some general unspoken rules to the competition in Illyriad, accurately summarized by "Don't be a jerk." But how far does this rule of thumb go?
Obviously, a legendary-city player should not go around raiding noobs for the fun of it. But when is competition and hostility accepted? This is a game after all, a game with armies and looting, and I feel like a good portion of the fun is lost if we stick to a "prosperity for all" mindset while playing.
How can I have some imperialistic/conqueror's fun without being seen as douchey warmonger? Or is that type of competition reserved for only the higher-up players?
Can anyone plz share their ideas on how things work around here?
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