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belargyle 
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 Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 16:31 |
Query..
In this thread, I have never heard the name FromFrak mentioned and from all the former members of TLR who have changed alliances (for whatever reasons).. why single that individual out?
How did you know about her being from TLR to come to that conclusion so readily and emphatically, that you never sieged that particular person, in light of the fact she was never brought up?
Is it possible you aided in attacks on her when she WAS being sieged? Is that how you know of her? Just wondering how you came to single her out in this event.
Edited by belargyle - 21 Nov 2012 at 17:07
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ES2
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Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 16:50 |
 belargyle wrote:
Query..
In this thread, I have never heard the name FromFrak mentioned and from all the former members of TLR who have changed alliances (for whatever reasons).. why single that individual out?
How did you know about her being from TLR to come to that conclusion so readily and emphatically, that you never siege that particular person, in light of the fact she was never brought up?
Is it possible you aided in attacks on her when she WAS being sieged? Is that how you know of her? Just wondering how you came to single her out in this event.
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Or it could be that she was reinforcing something, what do I know..
Edited by ES2 - 21 Nov 2012 at 16:55
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Elmindra
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Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 16:51 |
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Fromfrak probably came up due to the fact that she had reinforcing armies at one of the siege locations. I don't think the issue was with DLords or it's members, after all we are cheerfully at war. The query was directed at the question of was TLR jumping into the war due to its new ties to DLords and if not, why were they sieging Juxwin's town.
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Juswin
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Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 18:39 |
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The issue was with TLR members as they are neutral parties, not with DLord members.
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belargyle
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Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 18:41 |
My point regarding FromFrak, is that he knows full well that her presence there is due to his and others attacks, sieges, and thefts against her recently.
Now as for TLR being involved, as the leader of Dlord and to my current knowledge, as an alliance, they are not involved in the war toward any specific side. Thus for whatever reason, the attacks are not WAR based (one side or the other) but apparently based on something else.
I agree he can ask for a reason for what happened.. it is his right to ask, but in putting it up in the forums has nothing to do with getting answers but sympathy and a place to whine. If they wont answer his mails what is the sam-hill will placing them in forum make them do?
Again, the vast majority of attacks in this game are due to consequences of actions we ourselves have done. To presume every action we do will have the specific re-action we want or have determined permissible is poorly conceived. Something else is in play besides the war apparently..
Edited by belargyle - 21 Nov 2012 at 18:42
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ES2
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Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 18:51 |
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An Order went out in the last few hours to recall all units involved in the siege.
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Nokigon
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Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 18:55 |
KillerPoodle wrote:
Taron wrote:
H? wiped out alliances before if ya didn't know.
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Could you shed just a sprinkling of proof over this pudding of lies?
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The only alliances I can think of off the top of my head are White/Black, and I suppose if you were going to go really anti-H? and ignore all the other alliances who were in that war, TMM....
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Juswin
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Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 19:12 |
belargyle wrote:
Again, the vast majority of attacks in this game are due to consequences of actions we ourselves have done. To presume every action we do will have the specific re-action we want or have determined permissible is poorly conceived. Something else is in play besides the war apparently..
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That is right, consequences of action I should have done. Except that I have not done anything to wonka and Bonfyr of TLR.
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The_Dude
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Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 20:06 |
H? did NOT destroy any of those alliances. Most White quit Illy due to burn-out. I know, they told me so. Many Black migrated to other alliances but now most have quit, I think.
H? actually wanted to keep TMM/Nige around for a recurring hostile to fight from time to time. Shadar Logoth and I destroyed TMM/Nige instead. I razed over 20 TMM cities.
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Nokigon
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Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 20:09 |
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Fair enough... I was only trying to offer an explanation where Taron skated over the point.
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