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Zangi
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Topic: United Alliance as Illyriad's United Nation Posted: 12 Oct 2010 at 15:32 |
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Coalition, people working together for a preferred outcome to an objective. Doesn't mean they need to butt in on the little tiffs that coalition members get into outside of that objective.
Confederation though, generally should mean that both sides will militarily back each other and stuff.
Though I believe a few alliances are just using it as a 'trade pact' and/or 'bloatware' to make it look like they have more backing then they really do have.
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Borg
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Posted: 12 Oct 2010 at 12:52 |
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yes, but you can still attack a coalition member if he pisses you off
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HonoredMule
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Posted: 11 Oct 2010 at 20:35 |
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Suddenly "coalition" sounds more like the confederation concept already built into the game.
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Borg
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Posted: 11 Oct 2010 at 18:36 |
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i would think a counter coalition would be created almost immediatly. those that have agrudge with the original members of the first coalition would see a need to have thier own. an "opec" type of group would evolve. the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
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Zangi
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Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 14:17 |
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If the UA forms, someone needs to form a counter coalition.
And then a 3rd coalition. And a 4th.
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KarL Aegis
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Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 12:58 |
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Morals mean nothing when money is involved. Just refuse to trade witht them. A boycott/embargo if you will.
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I am not amused.
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Ivorich Von Forge
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Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 03:52 |
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Larry the incentive/disincentive is in the moral stance. If the UA becomes powerful and immoral, the "powers that actually matter" would do themselves a huge PR favor by abstaining. Likewise, if the UA proves to be powerful and moral, abstaining could give one of those powers an image or being "evil", which could be sufficient incentive for them to join. Or, their incentive to join could be a desire to turn the UA to their own will, whichever moral stance they have chosen.
As I said, I would hope it would become a force for "good", not "evil" but it's an experiment and since no one, not even I, will have any superiority in the organization, it would be interesting to see how it evolves.
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Larry
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Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 03:44 |
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The problem, among other things, is that there's exactly 0 incentive for the powers that actually matter to join.
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Ivorich Von Forge
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Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 02:24 |
I would be interested in participating in such an experiment, but not exactly as presented. If it has any chance of working at all it has to: Allow any alliance of any age and/or size to apply.
Give an equal vote to each alliance.
Have admission, rejection, and ejection all decided by a simple majority vote.
To avoid accusations or actual instances of favoritism and/or powerbrokering, no individual or alliance will have any office or control over any other individual or alliance but all matters may be presented for a vote by any representative and will be voted on by every representative.
A activity requirement for representatives, which if not kept, the alliance is asked to send a new rep, rather than being kicked from the UA. If on any vote, an alliance rep is not active, the alliance's vote is counted as "Abstained/Absent".
The votes are given a reasonable amount of time for reps to vote, regardless of in which time-zone they reside. (I would say no more than 48 hours on a single vote, but most likely 24 hours would be more efficacious.)
Voting would be done via a poll forum post in the (to be created) "UA" thread, in the politics category on this forum.
Representative must use their in-game character name when voting so that all UA actions are public and there is both transparency and responsibility for the decisions made.
I may add more suggested policies as I think of them; But, in the meantime, feel free to comment on the above or the over-all package I propose.
Edited by Ivorich Von Forge - 05 Oct 2010 at 02:25
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CranK
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Posted: 05 Oct 2010 at 01:23 |
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you really like how HM writes don't ya? :) I agree, he should write a book or something.. I'm sure people will read it.
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