Play Now Login Create Account
illyriad
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Tournament square
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

Tournament square
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 3456>
Author
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
kodabear View Drop Down
Postmaster General
Postmaster General
Avatar
Player Council - Astronomer

Joined: 18 Jun 2013
Location: Lucerna
Status: Offline
Points: 1237 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kodabear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 22:47
Before I get to answering these questions.  Back when you added the BL square you said that you were going to have a XML list for import so i am wondering if you guys are willing to create the XML for Tournament square? It will make it easier for the coding to update the databases/coding for Tournament.

Also will the changing of the Tournament sqs effect the limited API key?
Back to Top
Starry View Drop Down
Postmaster
Postmaster
Avatar

Joined: 20 Mar 2010
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 612 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote Starry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 22:44
Thanks SC

These are my personal preferences, still waiting to hear from the members

1.   Six months is good
2.   Yes, on balanced combat terrain, I'd prefer a balanced approach, probably option c.
3.    Dates sound good

One other question, is there anyway to prevent players from moving cities within a 5-10 square radius of the tourney square (except where one already exists)?   Having cities moved around the tourney square is insane.   I realize that people will move cities close to the tourney squares but at least the city won't be clustered around the square.

Thanks SC, appreciate this dialogue.
CEO, Harmless?
Founder of Toothless?

"Truth never dies."
-HonoredMule
Back to Top
GM Stormcrow View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar
GM

Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Location: Illyria
Status: Offline
Points: 3820 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (2) Thanks(2)   Quote GM Stormcrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 22:28
If we implement this, we'd certainly apply practical rules to the square choice (not a town, not a sov'ed square, not impassable terrain etc).

3 questions though:

1. Would 6 months be about the right length of time before a square moved?

2. We can try and force a balance of combat terrain types... however, how should that balance be allocated? There are a number of options:

a) Based on the current ratios of square terrain across the two continents?  
b) Based on the region ratio (ie a mountainous region will be much more likely to pick a mountainous square)
c) Based on a fixed ratio (eg 8 Small Hills, 8 Plains, 8 Large Forests etc)
d) Just randomly pick the square in each region, which will - over time - be most likely to match b) but will also be more likely to throw up random weirdnesses

3. If we did (eg) 6 months, we'd pick eg 1st Jan and 1st Jul and let those dates be known in advance.  I think that'd also allow players to run tournaments that straddled the change - to shake things up half way through a tournament.  Does that work?

Regards,

SC

EDIT: Added a third question



Edited by GM Stormcrow - 21 Oct 2016 at 22:30
Back to Top
Starry View Drop Down
Postmaster
Postmaster
Avatar

Joined: 20 Mar 2010
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 612 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Starry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 22:08
Originally posted by wackturk wackturk wrote:

I would think you could make it very simple.  Current location and terrain is known to all.  Some have moved closer to these squares in order to have a strategic advantage on that square, they have also prepared their cities to produce the best troops for that terrain.  So, the simple answer is, don't worry about the Center of a region, anywhere in a region would favor one player over another at this point.  But if you made the code pick them at random on an interval and rotate the terrain at random also.  When the new squares are announced, players and alliances would need to determine which ones are closest, to those participating, which terrain type best suits their set ups, and this would create a more level playing field for those players and alliances that are not camped out next to the squares today.  It would also bring into question whether moving their cities to a more strategic position is worth it if the square could change in 3 months or 6 months or whatever random frequency.

+1 I agree with Wackturk Smile
CEO, Harmless?
Founder of Toothless?

"Truth never dies."
-HonoredMule
Back to Top
kodabear View Drop Down
Postmaster General
Postmaster General
Avatar
Player Council - Astronomer

Joined: 18 Jun 2013
Location: Lucerna
Status: Offline
Points: 1237 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kodabear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 21:42
Originally posted by GM Stormcrow GM Stormcrow wrote:

Originally posted by Dravin the Sloth Dravin the Sloth wrote:

the current squares, i believe, were chosen based upon their location at the center of each region.  which seems a fair approach.  my question would be, what sort of criteria, other than different, would go into the choosing of new squares?
This is the crux of the question.  koda?

SC
As long it has somewhat balanced terrain i am fine with anything

Edited by kodabear - 21 Oct 2016 at 21:43
Back to Top
wackturk View Drop Down
New Poster
New Poster
Avatar

Joined: 15 Mar 2016
Location: 270,216
Status: Offline
Points: 2 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wackturk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 21:23
I would think you could make it very simple.  Current location and terrain is known to all.  Some have moved closer to these squares in order to have a strategic advantage on that square, they have also prepared their cities to produce the best troops for that terrain.  So, the simple answer is, don't worry about the Center of a region, anywhere in a region would favor one player over another at this point.  But if you made the code pick them at random on an interval and rotate the terrain at random also.  When the new squares are announced, players and alliances would need to determine which ones are closest, to those participating, which terrain type best suits their set ups, and this would create a more level playing field for those players and alliances that are not camped out next to the squares today.  It would also bring into question whether moving their cities to a more strategic position is worth it if the square could change in 3 months or 6 months or whatever random frequency.
Back to Top
Lagavulin View Drop Down
Wordsmith
Wordsmith
Avatar

Joined: 31 Dec 2012
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 187 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lagavulin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 21:16
I would go with semi random.

It has to be a square that an army is allowed to land on.
Also, not a city square.
Not within X squares of the territory border.
or not within X squares of another tourney square.  Either of those.
Possibly not in any sov claim.
Back to Top
GM Stormcrow View Drop Down
Moderator Group
Moderator Group
Avatar
GM

Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Location: Illyria
Status: Offline
Points: 3820 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote GM Stormcrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 14:33
Originally posted by Dravin the Sloth Dravin the Sloth wrote:

the current squares, i believe, were chosen based upon their location at the center of each region.  which seems a fair approach.  my question would be, what sort of criteria, other than different, would go into the choosing of new squares?
This is the crux of the question.  koda?

SC
Back to Top
Starry View Drop Down
Postmaster
Postmaster
Avatar

Joined: 20 Mar 2010
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 612 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Starry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 14:14
I love the idea of changing squares, Koda.   You are awesome!
CEO, Harmless?
Founder of Toothless?

"Truth never dies."
-HonoredMule
Back to Top
Dravin the Sloth View Drop Down
New Poster
New Poster
Avatar

Joined: 18 May 2015
Status: Offline
Points: 36 		Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dravin the Sloth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2016 at 06:45
nah, probably not.  i can live with random as an answer to that question.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 3456>
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 12.03
Copyright ©2001-2019 Web Wiz Ltd.