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Originally posted by Baltek Baltek wrote:

I understand that adding features can be difficult to implement during the tournament.  However, is it possible to locate a list of all players on the statistic page whom have submitted valid api keys in order to participate?
The problem with doing this is some player didnt submit the API keys with the right name or playerID (which is why it is alot of work just to create a list of player and what alliance they are in) Before the end of the Tournament I will create a list of players who took part in battle (that won and had set the army to Occupying) to try to get there API keys. I was going to be looking at the output I get when the code gets run but I am getting that about every 5 mins.

Originally posted by Baltek Baltek wrote:


The reason I ask is that there has been some concern about some player attacks showing up from alliances that do not appear to be holding squares and are therefore not listed on the tournament page.  Since not occupying is a valid strategy and even the use of alts with valid api keys to “support” other alliances isn’t out of bounds it still raises questions of player integrity and perhaps even tournament transparency when it is regularly occurring during the event.

I more then welcome players from alliances that aren't taking part to attack the Tournament Squares. I knew it was going to happen. Today my army that was holding a sq was cleared by Baynights while it does suck but it isn't a big deal to me i only lost 40k knights 

Originally posted by Baltek Baltek wrote:

Whist there may not currently be any solution or technical means to prevent such activities, it would be helpful to know whether or such players are simply being spoilers and distruptive to the spirit and intent of an event.

I do want to be clear by the rules I have the only way someone could of spoiled the fun of the event was cheating by having more then one alliance on the sq. Thankfully the devs helped with that issue making it where you cant leave your alliance if you have any troops on any of the  Tournament Squares http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/16may16-tournament-alliance-quit-suspension_topic6895.html

Originally posted by Baltek Baltek wrote:

Perhaps the devs could someday provide for a paid lockout period for tourney squares preventing non-registered event participants from landing on them but in the meantime the only way for the rest of the playerbase to fully understand a players’ intent is to know whether or not they are participating honestly.

This idea really wouldnt work for a number of reasons and not something I personally would want. The main point of this Tournament was for nf awareness month and to have fun.

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Thank you again for all the hard work and effort in organizing and running this event.  Is there any chance you would make your tools available in the future should other players want to organize similar activities?

It is up to Digioso if he wants to release to the public. A few thing to keep in mind is the coding is written is perl (I dont know how many players know perl but if something goes wrong no one will be able to fix it) and using MySQL as the database and requires having a webserver. in my opinion it isnt the great of an idea for the code to be release to the public




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I understand that adding features can be difficult to implement during the tournament.  However, is it possible to locate a list of all players on the statistic page whom have submitted valid api keys in order to participate?

The reason I ask is that there has been some concern about some player attacks showing up from alliances that do not appear to be holding squares and are therefore not listed on the tournament page.  Since not occupying is a valid strategy and even the use of alts with valid api keys to “support” other alliances isn’t out of bounds it still raises questions of player integrity and perhaps even tournament transparency when it is regularly occurring during the event.

Whist there may not currently be any solution or technical means to prevent such activities, it would be helpful to know whether or such players are simply being spoilers and distruptive to the spirit and intent of an event.

Perhaps the devs could someday provide for a paid lockout period for tourney squares preventing non-registered event participants from landing on them but in the meantime the only way for the rest of the playerbase to fully understand a players’ intent is to know whether or not they are participating honestly.

Thank you again for all the hard work and effort in organizing and running this event.  Is there any chance you would make your tools available in the future should other players want to organize similar activities?

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Okay, no problem.  I appreciate all the effort going into the tournament.  I was puzzled because I remembered reading that error was fixed, so wasn't expecting residue effects.
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Originally posted by Count Rupert Count Rupert wrote:

I guess I'm puzzled why if we're through the initial batch of combat reports, why it hasn't been fixed since this occurred quite early in the tournament.  Wouldn't the error have occurred somewhere in those 14124 combat reports?  It shouldn't even be in the 14 hours unless the error is still occurring on battles in Windlost.
Yes the error did happen during those first few days but isnt just something that I can go though the database and clear out bad data. Yes i guess i could delete all the data that happen from 17.05.2016 00:00:00 to 2016.033.21 20:31:33 and then upload the missing data from the other database but that will require alot of work and if i did it that way there is a chance for bad data to remain in the database. other reason to keep scanning though the combat until it is caught up to current times is some people submitted API keys late or I forgot there API key (can happen when dealing with over 700 API keys). I do realize people really want the right times but it isnt just something that can be fixed right away. I am hoping that posting what I currently have will tie people over until i can get the current database uploaded which could be sometime tomorrow or the next day.
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I guess I'm puzzled why if we're through the initial batch of combat reports, why it hasn't been fixed since this occurred quite early in the tournament.  Wouldn't the error have occurred somewhere in those 14124 combat reports?  It shouldn't even be in the 14 hours unless the error is still occurring on battles in Windlost.
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Here is what i will do. I am going to post what the other database currently looks like as far but keep in mind it is still running started running 2016.030.22 09:37:30: Starting update. and it currently has scan though 5038 out of 7407 and the last time it was updated was ""Last database update was at: 20.05.2016 17:27:08""  and that scan started at 2016.029.20 17:27:29: and finshed scanning at 2016.033.21 20:31:33: 

Top occupying alliances:

Rank:Alliance:Duration:
1Valiant Crows54 days, 13 hours, 19 minutes, 4 seconds
2Holy Storm Company37 days, 11 hours, 20 minutes, 4 seconds
3Slaves to Armok26 days, 16 hours, 5 minutes, 33 seconds
4The Colonist Empire26 days, 8 hours, 29 minutes, 52 seconds
5Wheel of Time18 days, 21 hours, 10 minutes, 48 seconds
6EAGLES EYRIE18 days, 5 hours, 18 minutes, 59 seconds
7Order of the Orc17 days, 16 hours, 50 minutes, 50 seconds
8Eight Hand Crow16 days, 18 hours, 26 minutes, 6 seconds
9Murder of Crows16 days, 5 hours, 29 minutes, 39 seconds
10Illyria Fairy Nation15 days, 14 hours, 43 minutes, 52 seconds
11Shrapnel's FDU14 days, 9 hours, 4 minutes, 13 seconds
12Crow's Nest12 days, 6 hours, 41 minutes, 27 seconds
13Roman Empire11 days, 19 hours, 33 minutes, 48 seconds
14Harmless?8 days, 19 hours, 10 minutes, 6 seconds
15The Fellowship7 days, 21 hours, 40 minutes, 54 seconds
16Love And Freedom6 days, 20 hours, 16 minutes, 46 seconds
17The Gateway6 days, 10 hours, 51 minutes, 55 seconds
18Æsir6 days, 7 hours, 51 minutes, 52 seconds
19Fairy Road Authority6 days, 0 hours, 51 minutes, 28 seconds
20Achaean's League5 days, 23 hours, 18 minutes, 51 seconds
21Skeleton Boar5 days, 23 hours, 4 minutes, 21 seconds
22Southland Sentinels5 days, 4 hours, 30 minutes, 52 seconds
23Dwarven Druids3 days, 14 hours, 37 minutes, 18 seconds
24The Cave3 days, 3 hours, 41 minutes, 8 seconds
25Dwarven Lords1 days, 19 hours, 52 minutes, 16 seconds
26The Pirate Republic0 days, 22 hours, 59 minutes, 37 seconds
27PRAEVALEO0 days, 16 hours, 7 minutes, 56 seconds
28Chaos0 days, 12 hours, 17 minutes, 54 seconds
29Republic of F.Cities0 days, 7 hours, 15 minutes, 46 seconds
30Dwarven in-law0 days, 2 hours, 8 minutes, 43 seconds
31Hogwarts at Illyriad0 days, 2 hours, 3 minutes, 57 seconds
32Toothless?0 days, 0 hours, 3 minutes, 36 seconds


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Square:Region:Occupied by:Top occupier:
-786/-2393AindaraWheel of Time (Since: 21.05.2016 05:55:26)Wheel of Time (2 days, 17 hours, 33 minutes, 52 seconds)
-148/-2632AlmenlyOrder of the Orc (Since: 18.05.2016 03:08:37)Order of the Orc (4 days, 12 hours, 52 minutes, 24 seconds)
138/-479ArranHoly Storm Company (Since: 21.05.2016 02:52:55)Holy Storm Company (2 days, 1 hours, 40 minutes, 49 seconds)
-396/-572AzuraHoly Storm Company (Since: 21.05.2016 05:54:56)Harmless? (2 days, 22 hours, 0 minutes, 16 seconds)
537/-2910CalumnexSlaves to Armok (Since: 21.05.2016 03:53:04)Holy Storm Company (2 days, 15 hours, 12 minutes, 6 seconds)
-859/-3002ChulbranEight Hand Crow (Since: 17.05.2016 10:41:25)Eight Hand Crow (5 days, 6 hours, 45 minutes, 25 seconds)
145/-1658ClarienSlaves to Armok (Since: 20.05.2016 11:16:59)Slaves to Armok (2 days, 6 hours, 33 minutes, 27 seconds)
-521/-2162CoanharaRoman Empire (Since: 18.05.2016 13:47:17)Roman Empire (4 days, 9 hours, 12 minutes, 18 seconds)
872/-632DjebeliValiant Crows (Since: 19.05.2016 17:38:30)Valiant Crows (3 days, 10 hours, 48 minutes, 30 seconds)
904/-488ElijalEight Hand Crow (Since: 20.05.2016 09:44:50)Eight Hand Crow (3 days, 20 hours, 30 minutes, 24 seconds)
-519/-905Farra IsleSlaves to Armok (Since: 17.05.2016 00:00:00)Slaves to Armok (5 days, 16 hours, 1 minutes, 11 seconds)
831/-2848FarshardsValiant Crows (Since: 21.05.2016 06:00:02)Valiant Crows (5 days, 6 hours, 1 minutes, 8 seconds)
815/-2466FellandireThe Gateway (Since: 17.05.2016 06:50:25)The Gateway (5 days, 9 hours, 10 minutes, 48 seconds)
-830/334FremornIllyria Fairy Nation (Since: 20.05.2016 06:06:24)Illyria Fairy Nation (4 days, 7 hours, 46 minutes, 20 seconds)
-123/-1785GlanhadLove And Freedom (Since: 21.05.2016 04:00:40)Love And Freedom (4 days, 0 hours, 12 minutes, 15 seconds)
755/-2116GremontEAGLES EYRIE (Since: 17.05.2016 00:20:40)EAGLES EYRIE (5 days, 15 hours, 40 minutes, 39 seconds)
463/-1906High HillsEAGLES EYRIE (Since: 21.05.2016 01:17:34)EAGLES EYRIE (1 days, 14 hours, 43 minutes, 50 seconds)
-667/-1632HuronireRoman Empire (Since: 17.05.2016 00:01:07)Roman Empire (5 days, 16 hours, 0 minutes, 18 seconds)
589/-3201JurgorWheel of Time (Since: 18.05.2016 02:16:29)Wheel of Time (4 days, 13 hours, 45 minutes, 1 seconds)
-380/696Kal TirikanHoly Storm Company (Since: 20.05.2016 17:58:55)Illyria Fairy Nation (2 days, 19 hours, 53 minutes, 21 seconds)
576/-829KemValiant Crows (Since: 21.05.2016 02:24:08)Valiant Crows (3 days, 7 hours, 16 minutes, 49 seconds)
-516/-4KeppenSkeleton Boar (Since: 17.05.2016 00:02:52)Skeleton Boar (5 days, 15 hours, 58 minutes, 42 seconds)
772/-163KeshaliaThe Colonist Empire (Since: 17.05.2016 00:03:58)The Colonist Empire (5 days, 15 hours, 57 minutes, 39 seconds)
-659/-2765KingslandsHoly Storm Company (Since: 21.05.2016 03:57:14)Holy Storm Company (3 days, 12 hours, 57 minutes, 49 seconds)
-529/-2576KormandlyWheel of Time (Since: 17.05.2016 09:48:36)Wheel of Time (5 days, 6 hours, 13 minutes, 4 seconds)
886/-349Kul TarEight Hand Crow (Since: 18.05.2016 07:31:27)Eight Hand Crow (5 days, 9 hours, 40 minutes, 23 seconds)
-924/-488KumalaSouthland Sentinels (Since: 17.05.2016 11:30:06)Southland Sentinels (5 days, 4 hours, 31 minutes, 35 seconds)
-544/-412Lan LaroshHarmless? (Since: 17.05.2016 00:00:01)Harmless? (5 days, 16 hours, 1 minutes, 41 seconds)
907/280LaoshinThe Colonist Empire (Since: 21.05.2016 01:13:52)The Colonist Empire (3 days, 13 hours, 53 minutes, 24 seconds)
910/-1984Lapo'a LuaEAGLES EYRIE (Since: 18.05.2016 06:48:58)EAGLES EYRIE (5 days, 5 hours, 26 minutes, 10 seconds)
748/-853LarnShrapnel's FDU (Since: 21.05.2016 04:37:35)Shrapnel's FDU (3 days, 19 hours, 21 minutes, 45 seconds)
372/12LucernaValiant Crows (Since: 18.05.2016 05:24:11)Valiant Crows (5 days, 1 hours, 59 minutes, 19 seconds)
638/59Mal MotshaThe Colonist Empire (Since: 17.05.2016 00:05:00)The Colonist Empire (5 days, 15 hours, 56 minutes, 55 seconds)
-436/250MeillaHoly Storm Company (Since: 21.05.2016 04:26:11)Æsir (2 days, 22 hours, 17 minutes, 3 seconds)
85/-22Middle KingdomLove And Freedom (Since: 20.05.2016 15:33:37)The Fellowship (3 days, 8 hours, 18 minutes, 7 seconds)
140/-2085NewlandsMurder of Crows (Since: 21.05.2016 04:33:38)Murder of Crows (3 days, 19 hours, 21 minutes, 46 seconds)
-543/-1785NorthmarchHoly Storm Company (Since: 20.05.2016 05:47:03)Holy Storm Company (5 days, 7 hours, 35 minutes, 31 seconds)
-36/328NorweldMurder of Crows (Since: 20.05.2016 23:51:23)Murder of Crows (3 days, 20 hours, 24 minutes, 44 seconds)
-232/-2003OarnamlyMurder of Crows (Since: 18.05.2016 22:59:06)Murder of Crows (3 days, 17 hours, 2 minutes, 56 seconds)
-344/-1420PamanyallpaSlaves to Armok (Since: 17.05.2016 04:34:21)Slaves to Armok (5 days, 11 hours, 31 minutes, 49 seconds)
696/-1660PawanallpaNobodyValiant Crows (3 days, 2 hours, 39 minutes, 54 seconds)
308/-260PerrigorNobodyValiant Crows (3 days, 10 hours, 48 minutes, 1 seconds)
440/-1524PuchuallpaSlaves to Armok (Since: 20.05.2016 16:00:55)Slaves to Armok (4 days, 18 hours, 33 minutes, 40 seconds)
761/781QarosslanFairy Road Authority (Since: 21.05.2016 05:40:44)Crow's Nest (3 days, 21 hours, 29 minutes, 19 seconds)
448/325RagallonThe Colonist Empire (Since: 17.05.2016 00:02:12)The Colonist Empire (5 days, 16 hours, 0 minutes, 0 seconds)
-683/-879Rill ArchipelagoSlaves to Armok (Since: 17.05.2016 00:08:47)Slaves to Armok (5 days, 15 hours, 53 minutes, 26 seconds)
311/-2894ShardlandsOrder of the Orc (Since: 17.05.2016 00:15:05)Order of the Orc (5 days, 15 hours, 47 minutes, 9 seconds)
-253/-2372SilbeaurValiant Crows (Since: 17.05.2016 00:00:01)Valiant Crows (5 days, 16 hours, 2 minutes, 15 seconds)
-51/-987Stormstone IslandValiant Crows (Since: 20.05.2016 14:20:41)Valiant Crows (5 days, 5 hours, 21 minutes, 49 seconds)
-417/-2938StrendurAchaean's League (Since: 17.05.2016 00:00:59)Achaean's League (5 days, 16 hours, 1 minutes, 21 seconds)
-24/-756TallimarShrapnel's FDU (Since: 20.05.2016 23:25:55)Shrapnel's FDU (3 days, 15 hours, 32 minutes, 4 seconds)
812/573TamarinCrow's Nest (Since: 17.05.2016 00:01:16)Crow's Nest (5 days, 16 hours, 1 minutes, 5 seconds)
699/292TaomistThe Colonist Empire (Since: 17.05.2016 00:04:58)The Colonist Empire (5 days, 15 hours, 57 minutes, 28 seconds)
-256/-3216The Long WhiteThe Cave (Since: 20.05.2016 22:46:06)Order of the Orc (1 days, 19 hours, 58 minutes, 31 seconds)
191/-2756The Orken CoastOrder of the Orc (Since: 17.05.2016 01:50:07)Order of the Orc (5 days, 14 hours, 12 minutes, 19 seconds)
342/-2330The Pirate IslesMurder of Crows (Since: 18.05.2016 05:59:04)Murder of Crows (4 days, 10 hours, 3 minutes, 23 seconds)
-938/-1574The Poisoned IsleHoly Storm Company (Since: 19.05.2016 02:23:16)Holy Storm Company (3 days, 13 hours, 39 minutes, 12 seconds)
-823/826The WastesIllyria Fairy Nation (Since: 18.05.2016 05:19:24)Illyria Fairy Nation (5 days, 12 hours, 5 minutes, 44 seconds)
-825/-127The Western RealmsWheel of Time (Since: 17.05.2016 02:42:33)Wheel of Time (5 days, 13 hours, 19 minutes, 58 seconds)
-166/-199Tor CarrockHoly Storm Company (Since: 18.05.2016 21:02:03)Holy Storm Company (4 days, 15 hours, 0 minutes, 3 seconds)
441/-925TromeNobodyNobody
400/-504TuraliaValiant Crows (Since: 20.05.2016 23:09:50)Valiant Crows (4 days, 23 hours, 6 minutes, 57 seconds)
494/840UrsorFairy Road Authority (Since: 21.05.2016 01:06:05)Crow's Nest (2 days, 7 hours, 41 minutes, 50 seconds)
506/-2551VindorelHoly Storm Company (Since: 19.05.2016 10:01:53)Holy Storm Company (4 days, 1 hours, 53 minutes, 8 seconds)
-773/-1963WestmarchNobodyRoman Empire (1 days, 18 hours, 0 minutes, 12 seconds)
355/564WindlostNobodyValiant Crows (1 days, 6 hours, 32 minutes, 9 seconds)
109/743WolgastEAGLES EYRIE (Since: 17.05.2016 00:00:25)EAGLES EYRIE (5 days, 16 hours, 2 minutes, 16 seconds)
614/-521ZanpurValiant Crows (Since: 19.05.2016 09:06:12)Valiant Crows (4 days, 17 hours, 48 minutes, 34 seconds)
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To scan though 14124  combat report it took about 14 hours and then I had to scan though all the report that happen in that 14 hours and will keep having to do this until i can get as close to the current time
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Originally posted by kodabear kodabear wrote:

Originally posted by kodabear kodabear wrote:

16:17]<Kodabear> Hello everyone. got some Tournament news. We are pretty sure we have gotten down to the bottom of the problem where some occupations were alot longer then they should (Ep 355/564 Windlost Holy Storm Company (Since: 20.05.2016 16:01:53) Holy Storm Company (7 days, 11 hours, 27 minutes, 47 seconds)) we are testing right now to make sure the issue was fixed and if it was fixed we will start going though the work of getting a fully corrected database thank you all for being very patience while we work out the problems

Testing worked and this bug has been fixed we are now working getting a fully corrected database. The code has to scan though about 14124 combat reports so it will take a bit

How long a bit?  The webpage seems to still be reflecting the error.
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It might be worth defining what
-Most Contested Square(s)
-Least Contested Square(s)

Is this about how many troops died or how many times it changed hands or the number of players/ citys involved in fighting for the squares ro Alliances. I would suggest the first one but it may not tell the whole picture.
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Originally posted by Digioso Digioso wrote:

All of these should be possible. :)
I'll note them down.

I can't promise they'll be available immediately after the end of the tournament, though. Some are easy to achieve (EG a single database query) , others involve some scripting.

No Rush! I understand that you have a lot of work to do so please don't feel pressured to get it done. I'm sure everyone will be willing to wait for them (whilst rebuilding troops for the next tourney, of course).
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