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Points: 283 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2012 at 23:21
Oh here we go. We are talking about a 7 population town that is ridiculously close to a well established town. If anyone were to be that close we would take steps to rectify it, similarly of any alliance. It is common courtesy to give at least 7 square room unless you message the player and hes fine with moving closer!

There is no hypocrisy here, we have never even involved our self with land disputes that we do not fully know the details of! You have jumped on a thread and derailed it from a simple way of getting hold of another player with a possible cause of action in the thread to a bash "crow" hypocrisy thread. Literally instead of talking do something about this perceived evilness because we sure as science do not feel the need to unnecessary thread derailment to get at another alliance.
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Points: 380 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2012 at 23:10
I think it's great that this was placed onto the forums, it helps to open a few eyes.  What we see here my fellow players is a typical case that has been occurring more and more in Illyriad™.  These GP's throw a fit whenever someone else attempts to make a land claim and how they will *rescue* those that are being * crucified* but when it's happening to them they immediately throw out the possible of siege. 

Perhaps now some of you will take stock of the seriousness of this hypocrisy and do what you can to prepare yourselves for when a similar situation lands upon your doorstep.

 


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Points: 283 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2012 at 23:05
1) This is Hugcr and not nCrow so i can only give you an opinion of what i would do and this no way represents Hugcr ultimate intentions.

2) Yes ultimately, i'm sure Hugcr would give assistance where needed in order to make the move as painless as possible and may even give some form of assistance when the new town has finished moving and increases in size. However if no-one responds with via actions or deeds in order to take steps to rectify such problem then Hugcr have the right to rectify the situation themselves as it would not only stunt the growth of itself but also in the future stunt the growth of an already well established town.
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Points: 380 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2012 at 22:59
So it's a *violation* of personal space, you are going to to threaten the removal of that city over it?




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Points: 283 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2012 at 22:56
Geo, its massively different to the "land claim thread!" the land claim thread talks more of open relations with other alliances about setting boundaries etc. Whilst making sure everyone can grow without getting in the way of someone else as set by the pre-requirements, this is common courtesy and is obvious to all that 3 squares are much too close to another player, it does not need a pre-requisite to judge this. It is purely an encroachment of personal space if anything.
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Points: 1013 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2012 at 22:50
After your comical dismissal of Land Claims in the Land Claims thread, I am shocked you would bring up a land claim dispute within the forums. 

When asked to post any land claims you might have your reply was to poke fun of the whole concept. Your exact words where: "I claim the air, and intend to move all my cities there as soon as there are dragons to carry them." 

I do not see any "I claim a 4 square radius around my towns." As you pointed out, Janosch and other TOR members frequent the forums and would of likely noticed any claims you could of made. 

I am greatful that you are looking for a peaceful resolution to this issue. I understand the urgency as you don't want the town in question to get too large before having to be relocated. 

(yes, i'm still sour over that entire thread and will enjoy pointing out the hypocrisy of those that made fun of it over the next few years)
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Points: 6903 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2012 at 22:38
Originally posted by Angrim Angrim wrote:

seems evident from Rill's message that she hopes Janosch or another TOR alliance member will see it here.  in the absence of a response to igm, Ryelle is seeking to exhaust all possible avenues of contact before resorting to violence.

Precisely.  I want to keep all lines of communication open.  This is a minor dispute and should be able to be resolved peacefully if we just talk to each other.
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seems evident from Rill's message that she hopes Janosch or another TOR alliance member will see it here.  in the absence of a response to igm, Ryelle is seeking to exhaust all possible avenues of contact before resorting to violence.

Edited by Angrim - 25 Apr 2012 at 22:34
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Points: 380 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Apr 2012 at 22:31
I'll just interject myself in here,

If you "..would like to request that Janosch or another TOR member either contact me in-game regarding this matter (which would be my preference).." Why did you place this in the forums, political pressure perhaps?


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I am posting this message on behalf of Ryelle of HUGcr.

This message involves a dispute between HUGcr and TOR.  I am posting this in the forum because I have seen TOR leadership, notably Janosch, post on the forum with some frequency.  On the other hand, I have not received any response to multiple mails I sent in game to Janosch and his player.

I am writing in reference to a town recently settled near our player Grimebag's city at this location:


Three squares is not an adequate distance for both towns to grow and claim sovereignty.  We therefore contacted bramlyn and Janosch to discuss what to do about the situation.  We have received no response from either player.

I would like to request that Janosch or another TOR member either contact me in-game regarding this matter (which would be my preference), send me a forum mail about it, or post a reply in this thread.

If TOR does not respond to this request within 5 days, we may choose to simply remove the city.
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