In The Red

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   I have a city I got via siege. The levels are quite high especially food. So high I can't keep out of the red in food and iron. I have leveled up my store house and whse to lvl 20 but its not enough. I have 70 vans but using them all to spread res about still isn't enough to stay out of the red. I think the former owner had a lrge army before but I can't stay out of the red in gold in order to have a lrge army. My question is; is it normal for lrge players to run negative gold as long as they have enough gold to cover? I could do that, take up my army which would use more food and iron so I would be out of the red in res except for gold which I have enough to cover. Then I could focus on getting my blds to lvl 20 and my gold would go up. Of course I could raise taxes and take up gold that way but production would go down. Which is best? Ty.

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Antivirus Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Warrior Joined: 19 Aug 2016 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 207	Post Options Post Reply Quote Antivirus Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: In The Red Posted: 15 Nov 2016 at 10:42
	I have a city I got via siege. The levels are quite high especially food. So high I can't keep out of the red in food and iron. I have leveled up my store house and whse to lvl 20 but its not enough. I have 70 vans but using them all to spread res about still isn't enough to stay out of the red. I think the former owner had a lrge army before but I can't stay out of the red in gold in order to have a lrge army. My question is; is it normal for lrge players to run negative gold as long as they have enough gold to cover? I could do that, take up my army which would use more food and iron so I would be out of the red in res except for gold which I have enough to cover. Then I could focus on getting my blds to lvl 20 and my gold would go up. Of course I could raise taxes and take up gold that way but production would go down. Which is best? Ty.

Rill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster General Player Council - Geographer Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 6903	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rill Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Nov 2016 at 19:15
	Most players who support medium to large armies (more than 50k or so units) operate in the red in at least in those cities that have the large armies and make up the difference in trade, harvesting, selling prestige, or from accounts or cities that do not maintain such armies. If I understand it correctly, your concern is that you are accumulating basic resources faster than you can spend them. This is not generally considered to be a problem by most players; many established players have constantly maxed warehouses in terms of basic resources. In addition to raising taxes as you described, you might build some buildings that consume basic resources in addition to food, such as the troop upkeep reduction buildings, trade office, geomancy towers, etc. You might also choose to spend some basic resources on troop or advanced resource sov maintenance. If you have resource boost buildings such as foundry and have an oversupply of iron, you might consider replacing that building with one that is more useful to you.

Rill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster General Player Council - Geographer Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 6903	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rill Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Nov 2016 at 19:16
	For comparison purposes, many established players maintain taxes in the range of 50% to 60% or higher, depending of course on their playstyle and goals.

Diva Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Warrior Joined: 20 Dec 2011 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 416	Post Options Post Reply Quote Diva Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Nov 2016 at 20:16
	This is where you sov to maintain food levels needed. See instructions in this forum to do such and have FUN! If you buy prestige, this too helps food and every other basic resource to increase by 20%, sometimes that is not enough, and sovereignty will still be needed. https://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/Prestige Edited by Diva - 15 Nov 2016 at 20:19
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Antivirus Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Forum Warrior Joined: 19 Aug 2016 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 207	Post Options Post Reply Quote Antivirus Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 16 Nov 2016 at 00:25
	Thanks very much as this confirms what I was thinking.