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    Posted: 31 Aug 2016 at 17:23
if only this were the worst problem illy faced, or even one of the existential ones.

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

Illy rules prohibit sexism and sexual harassment.  In the past the developers and community have done a pretty good job of addressing this issue.  I think it's time for us to take a stand together, as a community, to say that this activity is not OK, not by anyone, not toward anyone.
we did, when we agreed to the ToS. nothing to see here. move along.

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

1) Players who agree that sexual harassment and sexual shaming should not be tolerated can indicate their agreement in this forum post.
because players who've decided to violate ToS will be cowed by a show of force composed of...erm...forum posts? there was a time when Rill knew the forum didn't actually solve problems.

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

I am also not posting because I have an agenda regarding Illy politics.
no, this is rl politics of a sort that i hope to be mostly free of in the confines of illy. against ToS. 'nuff said.

Originally posted by GM Rikoo GM Rikoo wrote:

If anyone sees an issue with a particular player, all you need to do is send me a time it happened (game time, in the top-right corner) and the name of the person who did it.
good advice, because some things said in a particular context are ok and understood even if they might go widely astray in a more public venue. gc is public. sometimes players forget, and sometimes they don't care. devs' house, devs' rules on what constitutes appropriate in the public space. (note that no player names appear in the preceding sentence.)

Originally posted by GM Rikoo GM Rikoo wrote:

Players do not get to decide what is harassment, the developers do.
true once a complaint has been made. but players have a role in this, and that is to decide if something is worthy of the devs' consideration. use discretion. don't be a (insert offensive word of your choice).

Originally posted by GM Rikoo GM Rikoo wrote:

It's basically the same rules as real life!
just so.
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Originally posted by DeathDealer89 DeathDealer89 wrote:

I would like to point out that Illy likely has many young players.  Talk of any sexual nature or other topics of non-PG subjects shouldn't be posted in the GC or the forum.  I would recommend the same for the alliance chats but obviously the individual alliances would control that.  

Exactly, thanks! Illy is PG-13 in GC. AC does not have to be, and PMs do no have to be, unless someone tells you that you are chatting with a minor. In that case, don't talk naughty. And don't harass someone in one of the many ways that it can happen. 

It's basically the same rules as real life! ha

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I would like to point out that Illy likely has many young players.  Talk of any sexual nature or other topics of non-PG subjects shouldn't be posted in the GC or the forum.  I would recommend the same for the alliance chats but obviously the individual alliances would control that.  
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The GMs are the people to deal with any alleged incidents.
If Rill needed to do something, sending an igm to the GM's would be sufficient would be my suggestion.
I do not believe that the forum is for people to make their personal thoughts known on the interpretation of Illyriad Games rules or policies.  This whole thread has the whiff of a player attempting to put themselves on the same level as the GM's.  It isn't their job to set out policy or interpret the rules.  By all means report specific perceived incidents,  but my view is to leaveaction and publicity to the owners of the game.
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Thank you Rikoo Star
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Go Rill and Congrats Rikoo for being there
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We do not tolerate harassment in any form, and that has been in the rules for a long time. 

If anyone sees an issue with a particular player, all you need to do is send me a time it happened (game time, in the top-right corner) and the name of the person who did it.

If someone is harassing you or someone else in an IGM, please open the IGM and then copy and paste the address that appears in your address bar into an IGM to me or to community@illyriad.co.uk.

If you cannot do this because you are on the tablet app or have any other issues, just send me the offending player's name, the game-time it happened (including date) and if this was something that has gone on for a while or any other details that need to be added.

No need to copy and paste the text, etc, as we can see all of that, and can see into AC, private messages, or anything else we need to. We don't monitor it all, but we do record it all.

Thanks!

GMR

EDIT: This is not open to debate. Players do not get to decide what is harassment, the developers do. Still, feel free to leave any comments or suggestions on how we might tackle the issue. Thanks!





Edited by GM Rikoo - 28 Aug 2016 at 00:41
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Originally posted by Solanar Solanar wrote:

"I am not posting to encourage witch hunts or vengeance."

But that's the fun part!

/me goes on a witch hunt for vengeance

Uh ohh...
Not the plank... please not the plank!

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Whilst sometimes having a foul mouth myself, I believe that it is necessary with balance. The line can be crossed and it is obvious to most people where this line is. Cultures are different though, so that's also important to remember. Every nation and society have different ways of seeing, using their language and dealing with things. Sometimes they are very 'harsh' .. I agree that the line has been crosses too often recently and I will do my part to try and stay above this line, not below it. Rill is correct in shedding light on this issue.

Josh

*edit changed some wording*


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Thank you Rill
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