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jcx 
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 Topic: Orc T1 Spears over poweredPosted: 23 Nov 2015 at 12:47 |
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The cost and time of building infantry can not justify their both attack/defense stats. :p
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BARQ
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Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 14:11 |
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i think actually Dwarfs are overpowered as infantary don't have a penalty on any terrain but have bonuss except on plains . and Dwarven Infantry is best
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Hyrdmoth
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Posted: 22 Nov 2015 at 10:54 |
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One market-based observation that I think is worth making is that there are only two items of advanced resources that are worth significantly more than the value of the basic resources used to create them. Those two items are cows and books.
I presume the value of books is related to the value of maintaining sovereignty, more than the value of recruiting diplomats. In the case of cows it seems pretty clear that this is due to their use in creating saddles for cavalry. This suggests to me that cavalry are the strongest units in the game, which is further supported by the races with access to the strongest (humans) and fastest (elves) cavalry being the most common races. Another reason why cavalry might be expected to be the most important troop type is that many players will settle on plains for the purpose of having a 7-food square for a large population, to support a large military and for building 10+ cities. It therefore seems perverse to complain that a spear unit is overpowered, when spears are the unit specialised for taking on cavalry, which are clearly a more popular choice for building. Otherwise we might expect to see spears have a market value of around 400, rather than 90-something, and cows relegated to a bovine curiosity.
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Ptolemy
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Posted: 20 Nov 2015 at 20:53 |
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I wasn't talking about members, I was talking about leaders. SIN is a good military example to follow in this game.
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Gragnog
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Posted: 20 Nov 2015 at 07:27 |
Ever notice that SIN actually has a pretty good mixture of all the races? Maybe it has something to do with the fact that each race has its own strengths and faults.
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Ptolemy
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Posted: 20 Nov 2015 at 02:42 |
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Ever notice that the leaders of SIN are all orcs, except for one elf?
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Posted: 19 Nov 2015 at 13:57 |
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if ORCs are overpowered than just be Orc and rule all
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Posted: 19 Nov 2015 at 06:20 |
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Anjire!
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Brandmeister
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Posted: 19 Nov 2015 at 03:06 |
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A level 20 barracks is 2x as effective as a level 1 barracks. All the build times should scale linearly, to the best of my knowledge.
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Posted: 19 Nov 2015 at 02:40 |
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Lets look at some actual figures
100,000k t1 kobalds (build time 370*) attack power 900,000 def vs spear 1,200,000 def vs sword 1,200,000 def vs bow 600,000 def vs caval 1,300,00 49333 t1 sentinels (build time 750*) attack power 986,667 def vs spear 1,134,667 def vs sword 1,134,667 def vs bow 1,184,000 def vs caval 789,333 looks really balanced to me especially if you use the sentinels to attack the kobalds instead of cavalry... ** hmm, not sure how much of reduction in build time a level 20 barracks has on each of these units. The numbers should still hold true. Even so, with 48000 t1 sentinels the attack power would be reduced to 960,000 still 360,000 greater then spears defense vs them. Edited by Anjire - 19 Nov 2015 at 02:52 |
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