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    Posted: 13 Aug 2014 at 01:52
After four pages of posts I'm still not certain what the original poster's complaint was.  Did he have some specific grievance in mind or was he apprehensive of the potential for an abuse of power that has not yet come to pass?
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I see no reason to consider who will keep the GA in check....none of those alliances ever showed any inclination to want to dominate the server at any given time to my knowledge.
Their formation came only for one purpose, now that has come about...I only see them returning to their daily business and minding their own as they did before.
 
 
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Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Originally posted by BBC BBC wrote:

who holds the power of balance in illy?
We all do.
 
If there is a wrong and we all see it then what's stopping everyone joining in a mutual agreement to stop them? As a few we are weak, but together we are strong!
Remember that everyone.


Wow! Couldn't be more true!

We should all join the Peaceful Illy Group (PIG)!!! To make sure this travesty never happens again!
All alliances need to join or not have a voice!

IGM Kumomoto or Empress Olivia if you want to join...
 
If people are truly worried about the balance of power than maybe we should give a different way of power to be obtained. If alliances are willing to give it a chance (such as PIG) then maybe if all alliances see a problem they can fully work together and stop them.
 
If we can at least get 25% of alliance's to join then no matter the size or power of an alliance it wouldn't stand a chance against the alliance's involved. The power will no longer be measured by members like before, power will be measured by unity and the right ideas.
 
If we work together we can change the act of power forever. Think about it.
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Hey im not very involved in politics in this game, but i have a few questions...
First which alliances make up The Grand Alliance?
Second why does anyone have to control illy, why cant we all just follow the rules and be nice?
and Third, if someone does control illy, is this such a bad thing?how will it affect everyone if there is a group of alliances that can win any war...just dont start any wars...
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Originally posted by BBC BBC wrote:

who holds the power of balance in illy?
We all do.
 
If there is a wrong and we all see it then what's stopping everyone joining in a mutual agreement to stop them? As a few we are weak, but together we are strong!
Remember that everyone.


Wow! Couldn't be more true!

We should all join the Peaceful Illy Group (PIG)!!! To make sure this travesty never happens again!
All alliances need to join or not have a voice!

IGM Kumomoto or Empress Olivia if you want to join...
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who holds the power of balance in illy?
We all do.
 
If there is a wrong and we all see it then what's stopping everyone joining in a mutual agreement to stop them? As a few we are weak, but together we are strong!
Remember that everyone.
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Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

Aurodan - lets compare and contrast what H? vs Vultures and friends did with their power.   

On one hand 
... one major war ... was only 1 war dec from H? ... lasted 6 months and ended ... 

The "victims" of that war bounced back in a relatively short time to mastermind the next server war for revenge ...

Your sycophantic posts of love about the latter group of folk are making you look kinda ridiculous.

I haven't been partaking in the "server war for revenge" nor the debate about it, but this was an unusually skew comparison with the war I did participate in, so I will make a couple of comments:

1) If I am not completely misinformed, both wars ended when the "victims" surrendered to the side starting the war. I have some difficulty in seeing how it is the Grand Alliances fault that H? waited so long with that.

2) The terms of peace in the one major war included a requirement to keep the terms secret. I am not sure that condition is still in effect but I think you missed the townrazing part of those terms in describing how gracious the peace terms of that war were, KP?

3) I believe Crowfed has been an important force in "the war for revenge". They were not involved in the "one major war".




Edited by Nesse - 10 Aug 2014 at 09:18
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Accounts should not be "sat" at all.  If YOU can't log in to play, then neither should your cities be available to help your Alliance. If it is an important enough account/city to the alliance they can reinforce as much as they want, but if YOU are not there to defend your own cities then so be it.

If there HAS to be sitters, the sitter is only allowed to consecutively "sit" for 60 days (or some finite time frame. Put a limit on it). If the owner has not returned/visited by then the account can no longer be sat until he/she does.

 Only city maintenance can be done. No shipment of goods outside the account and no aggressive military activity except defending the accounts cities. The sitter is only there to MAINTAIN the account until the owner returns. Again...if YOU can't find time to play the game, your account should not benefit from someone who has nothing but Illy time. And finally, each account may only "sit" ONE other account.

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... As the treaty does contain the founding of a PEACE alliance...
...maybe you could found a second alliance extra for KP and Aurordan, and I'd really like to see the Alliance chat LOL

No, seriously, guys... just let it rest. The wars over, for now. And congrats on that! Hug
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Deranzin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jul 2014 at 20:26
Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

I think the time is past when any one alliance or even confederation could "control" Illyriad -- or even just one continent of it.  Personally I think people would be wiser not to try.  I think in the future there will be multiple competing and countervailing forces.


There is a certain contradiction here between the bolded and the underlined part, you know ... LOL ... not to mention the veiled threat ... Wink

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

Probably the next person's guess is as good as mine.  Maybe better!


Good guess that one ... Tongue

Originally posted by Spheniscidae Spheniscidae wrote:

I fail to see how the substitution of a hegemon for a collective can be anything but positive for the game.


Hmmm hmmm ... history decrees that it is not really the system of rule that declares whether it will have a positive effect, but the people that are actually ruling.

If anyone doubts this, I can offer just one our of many examples : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classical_Greece

Originally posted by Brandmeister Brandmeister wrote:

One massive, monolithic block of permasat accounts is giving way to a large confederation of permasat accounts. If the devs ever halt the rampant multi-accounting in this game, none of the emperors will have any clothes. A system cleanse would return power to alliances consisting of active, engaged players. That is, incidentally, where the power belongs.


Well, I was never even sat for more than some hours when I slept, let alone perma-sat, but I definitely had no power to stop what came against me ...

Power has nothing to do with activity, even if they do wipe out the perma-sat accounts ... Shocked




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