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GM Luna 
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 Topic: Consone Appointment
Posted: 07 Feb 2013 at 00:27 |
If people can't discuss things in a civil manner without all the insults, it probably is best to just take it off the forums. I've tried to give everyone a chance to have their say, but it just descends into namecalling and trolling. I can't let it keep going on like that.
I'll be closing this thread. That is not an invitation to re-open another one for the express purpose of continuing to sling mud.
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geofrey
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Posted: 07 Feb 2013 at 00:21 |
 The_Dude wrote:
Tatharion wrote:
Agreed Darkwords. There is a mediator, let's leave it at that. |
There is no mediator.
There is no public diplomacy.
There is war. |
Wrong. The Coaltion has personally informed me that all negotiations must be handled by a harmless? mediator... not some Black Skull Horde official.
Additionally Harmless?/Dlords/TD have publicly stated all negotiations must be approved through a Harmless? mediator.
So both publicly, and privately, I have been informed by the Coalition of not only the existence of a mediator, but also it's requirement for any terms of surrender or "public diplomacy."
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Sisren
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Posted: 07 Feb 2013 at 00:19 |
The_Dude wrote:
Here's what we have learned in this thread:
Consone doesn't like the terms offered.
Consone thinks they will get better terms through: 1) Whining 2) Lying 3) Insulting
Coalition says there will be no negotiation of terms offered.
The war continues. |
I may be speaking out of turn, but I believe we would be open to some negotiation, of coarse limited to how much of a jerk someone is.
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The_Dude
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Posted: 07 Feb 2013 at 00:10 |
Tatharion wrote:
Agreed Darkwords. There is a mediator, let's leave it at that. |
There is no mediator.
There is no public diplomacy.
There is war.
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Sisren
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Posted: 07 Feb 2013 at 00:10 |
Hora wrote:
Rorgash wrote:
You are losing, why would H? and friends want "fair" negotiations?
You rebelled and you are getting stomped. and really if it wasnt for travel times i doubt the war would still be going on :P |
Rebell against what?
We had a conflict with Rhy, and H? decided we were a threat. Doesn't sound like proper rebelling to me.
Alternative would have been to accept (and not to defend against) sieges we would have got anyway. 
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And here I thought SkB had an issue with RHY... Boy do I ever have it wrong... Thanks for communicating openly and in real time!
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Sisren
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Posted: 07 Feb 2013 at 00:06 |
Ander wrote:
It will take me 6 months to reach 9 cities starting anew, and the war is already in its 5th month. I understand you and HonoredMule consider yourselves such scary and fearsome folks, but there is nothing you can threaten us with so. The worst you can possibly do is to destroy my cities once, that is all.
If I could betray my friends behind their back, pay our enemies whatever they ask for in terms of gold and crafted equipment, and "get back to the game we like", I would be in Dark Empire, not Absa. Thanks for your suggestion though.
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I don't quite follow this. Are you high? I am not sure of how Dark Empire betrayed our friends at any rate... certainly no one is suggesting that you betray friends. :)
And for what it's worth, HonouredMule is a nice guy, not quite scary and fearsome. He barely maintains his cities. But now we are far off topic - would you like to IGM me?
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Tatharion
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Posted: 06 Feb 2013 at 23:56 |
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Agreed Darkwords. There is a mediator, let's leave it at that.
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Be without fear in the face of your enemies. Be brave and upright, that God may love thee. Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death. Safeguard the helpless and do no wrong.
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Darkwords
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Posted: 06 Feb 2013 at 23:52 |
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I have to say this thread is a perfect example of why diplomatic negotiations should not be attempted on the forum.
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Daufer
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Posted: 06 Feb 2013 at 23:52 |
Kumomoto wrote:
What an interesting perspective. What makes you think "a coordinated all-in offensive against Harmless? to take them out of the fight" would actually work? we have not used almost any of our offensive forces... I hope Soup tries it... it will let lots of armies who have been complaining get some exercise...
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Oy Vae...
I appologize profusely for making a statement that could possibly be interpreted to mean that I thought that there is the slightest iota of a miniscule chance that any combination of alliances acting in concert could possibly affect the Harmless? war machine in any way. There now, take a deep breath. Feel better? Please forget I mentioned it.
Please note that a didn't say it was a good alternative, nor one that was at all likely to succeed. But given that Consone's war strategy thus far seems limited to waiting for siege camps to appear and then trying to rush enough troops down to break the camp before the city is obliterated I figured they might be saving their troops up for some blaze of glory offensive.
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(EOM) Harry
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Posted: 06 Feb 2013 at 23:45 |
I'm going to merely facilitate a logical solution to all this debauchery in here.. The "coalition" (if feeling like it) could offer a blanket package of negotiation to each Alliance of Consone, but offer said blanket package to each alliance individually, these alliances can then chose on their own merit but then have the same blanket package s the other said alliances. A good starting point, no?
At least then, selected alliances can take/leave the package as a singular entity. Those that do not can refuse and carry on/re-negotiate. Whilst those that accept can simply put "yes" to the said blanket package and be done with it.
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Edited by (EOM) Harry - 06 Feb 2013 at 23:48
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