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Le Roux 
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 Topic: Trading etiquette for warring parties...Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 18:05 |
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There seems to be some trend developing in regards to trade and war in general.
As neutrals in the war, it may be helpful for participants to understand our views about trade in general (and by neutral I do mean without alts on one side or another ). If you are in the war and know you have a blockade/siege at your city, it would be extremely poor form and bad etiquette to buy from the public market and knowingly expose an innocent 3rd party's vans to seizure. Trying to pass this off as the fault of the person doing the blockading does not pass muster. The innocent 3rd party trader puts up a sale on the market expecting nothing more than a business deal. If you order their vans into a war zone, it is your act that triggers the risk to the seller, the person doing the blockading may or may not have a reason to be blockading you, but that is of no matter to the trader. The blockading party did not order the vans. From a personal standpoint, if i lost vans to blockade where the buyer knew the blockade was in place, but was so desperate they risked a market buy, I might well be tempted to join in the siege and recoup my vans cost and the time and effort to rebuild via more punitive means. If you are under siege and blockade, look to your alliance and confeds for help and leave the market out of it.... .. simple common sense really.
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The_Dude
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 18:12 |
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Le Roux
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 18:18 |
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Only for trading hub deals. You can still trade city to city. There is a difference.
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Angrim
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 18:23 |
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the term "public market" seems to inject some confusion here.
the market writ large ("illy marketplace", if you will) is, i think, what Le Roux refers to, not a specific hub. town trades will involve the seller's vans delivering the goods (Le Roux's scenario) while hub trades will cause the buyer's vans to pick them up at the hub from which they were ordered (The_Dude's scenario). those who wish to take care that their vans are not involved in what might be perceived as providing support to one side or another will restrict their trades to the hubs. unfortunately, that requires a trader at a hub and a much later entry for many smaller players into the illy marketplace. town trades carry, as they always have, the risk of having one's vans lost to blockade, but now appear also to carry the additional risk of involving the seller in the growing conflict, whether or not the buyer is under siege.
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Le Roux
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 18:30 |
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Yes, I refer to the market in more broad terms. Personally, i tend to sell t1 res directly out of my cities (seemingly better selling prices) , and T2 res / gathered res via hubs.
If someone bought 210k clay from me and tried to sneak it through a blockade, I might be .. er ... unhappy.....
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dunnoob
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 18:38 |
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For a town trade, where a town under blockade accepts my town trade offer, and my vans are caught by the blockading party, what is the real problem? I wanted to sell or buy something, and as long as I get my part of the deal, and my vans return empty -- later as expected, maybe, but trades can always go to the other side of the map -- it worked. OTOH I'd be seriously annoyed if the vans from the blockaded town to me are caught.
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Le Roux
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 18:47 |
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The simple point is, if you are under blockade/siege, feel free to risk your own vans, or those of your alliance/confed.... just don't risk vans from those uninvolved , unless you want to perhaps add more enemies at your gates....
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KillerPoodle
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 18:54 |
You don't get your vans back. |
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Epidemic
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 18:58 |
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It might be a good idea to ask devs, in Suggestions & Game Enhancements, to change the rules so players in sieged towns can only trade thru hubs. Just my opinion.
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Le Roux
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 19:07 |
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Yea, I like my vans, and if i have to replace 70 because someone tried to save their sieged/blockaded town at my expense, expect more than a nasty IGM...
Just a simple matter of personal responsibility, don't risk my units to save your city. Risk your own , or those of your alliance/confed. Unless you want another 30 cats and 100k trueshot at your walls....
Edited by Le Roux - 23 Nov 2012 at 19:12 |
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