Release from Illyriad Ministry of Truth

This whole topic was dubious to begin with. But the blatant insults and name calling really aren't welcome. Closing this down.

Luna

Topic originator = sunstorm i suspect

Edited by cthulhu - 27 Oct 2012 at 08:39

Mandarins31 wrote: hellion19 wrote: Unless H? also planned to push VIC in to help fight RHY which then thats going to feed all sorts of other conspiracies because they obviously have a great deal of power that no one knows about to control every other guilds actions as well.    If they got informed by RHY that Absa attacked a standing army of them, H? didnt need supernatural mental powers to involve VIC in the conflict. It would have been quite easy to ask RHY to start sieges against Absa; and if Consone mutual defense wasnt a fake agreement, they surely would invole the rest of Consone, counting VIC. Then, announcing secret confed bonds with RHY would put them in a "legal" position to start a war against Absa and VIC, the rest of Consone would logically follow.  No mind control stufs; this theory could be true as it's a short logical continuation of causes and consequences anyone with the apropriate knowledge would be able to plan.  So for me, H? involvment could easily have started by asking RHY to siege Absa. But not before as H? couldnt have planned Absa would help Skb if RHY was hostile with Skb, so they are not behind it. H? started carefully on the tourney, to let other alliances kill each other and then enter in the tourney with almost full power (they used some units though), which is a classic and viable tactic. At the same time, maybe were they paranoiac about Consone members using the same strategy and letting H? lose troops first, which would put H? in disadvantage if Consone decided to start a war against them (but the facts shew the non-machiavelic plans of Consone, who played fully from the start of the tourney). If Consone alliances didnt play the tourney at all, it's obvious H? wouldn't either. H? were waiting for the best occasion to start a conflict against Consone. All the best conditions have been luckily or partially luckily gathered and so they didnt hesitate to jump in.

Your statement has a lot of If's that need to happen to make it true. So now H? is responsible for trying to get everyone to gang up on RHY? Again its silly to really assume that they are responsible for every other guilds actions whether poorly thought out or not. Consone tried a very heavy handed tactic and had their hand slapped.

The agreement of Consone from what I understand was a defensive agreement while the agreement was put to the test because of an aggressive action by Consone rather than them being on the defensive. So does this mean that anyone in the alliance of Consone can start a fight with someone then when they are retaliated on its now a Consone issue? If not... its what happened here. Ultimately meaning that Consone is not a defensive agreement but rather an offensive one that can be used by anyone without a central authority to avoid it being anything but that.

Now saying all of that... now H? is blamed for orchestrating all of it. So they setup a war that was between 2 equal sides (RHY vs ABSA and SkB) so they apparently knew VIC was going to step in and help beat down RHY further in a war that was escalated by Consone (ABSA) further than it needed to be. This all obviously planned by H? as they can obviously see all decisions and make them for all parties by themselves.

Just remember that because someone digs their own hole doesn't mean someone else plotted it. You don't see most people that get a DUI saying it was the bartenders fault for giving them the alcohol or the brand of alcohol for creating it (they obviously knew the final result would be this DUI which was their plot all along D: )

actually i am a goddess and i train my men all month long but a spy is a spy is a spy and this game is loaded with them. get a clue, you never know who  is actually playing in your alliance and what information is being gathered and shared with others and the writing of it in the forums just means u have horrible security in your alliance. maybe u are not as secure as u think and payback is coming. there is a saying about kicking a dog when its down, but again i have to wonder of that dog when it just doesnt know when its beaten. of course the leaders in this war just seem to care about their own egos....my bf better be reading this and know what happens if its not my ego being taken care of...there will be payback

Bonaparta wrote: The_Dude wrote: hellion19 wrote: **** Perhaps the person that speaks with him is the voice of God? No.  I have never spoken with him.   Why do you assume god is "him"?

Edited by Rorgash - 27 Oct 2012 at 00:56