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    Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 00:52

I have followed with some interest the views and opinions of the great and the good on the forums and as a group we felt it was time to post an update again and ask some questions.

Rhyagelle and Absa have no diplomatic, magic or forces attacks on one another and have agreed to de-escalate their conflict. To my knowledge the whole thing which kicked this off has now ended. In light of this I would like to ask again - what are the terms for peace - from those we are at war with. I am yet to receive a response to my initial question on this so I am asking again.

We hope that we can broker peace and bring an end to things and would look forward to some contact in the next 24 hours to have discussions in regard to this.

There have been other discussions that have been doing the rounds and I would like to at least let you know how I see things. Consone is a confederacy of different alliances with their own command structures and aims. As I have said repeatedly, we are friends and it is why we set the whole thing up. There is no, one over arching leader. Much has been made of Consone being a Machiavellian organisation seeking to dominate Elgea or just a schoolground bully. Indeed the same accusations have been fired at Harmless? For our part, it was never our intention to set up a confederation as such and for those who know me well, they would know that would never be my personal aim.

As others have said, the best way to see Consone is as friends whose alliances are confederated. I am not going to go over the whole 'how it happened' thing again, suffice to say alliances in Consone have their opinion and clearly Harmless? and others have their opinion, and those viewpoints differ.

Now, speaking for Invictus I have noted with some interest the accusations towards alliances in Consone using the backing of the confederate to make land grabs and harvest aggressively. I have to say, at no time in my leadership of VIC has a VIC member done this without a clear signal to refrain from doing it immediately. The amount of guidance we have issued on respecting people's sovereignty and harvesting areas has been numerous. When H? broke their NAP with us 6 weeks or so ago, they said that they were fed up of our aggressive harvesting tactics. I asked Kumo at the time if we could not just discuss what had happened and if we could resolve any disputes without resorting to cancelling a NAP. I did not receive a response. I have never had any contact with H? resembling an issue that we had to broker over harvesting so this came out of the blue. I have had conversations with other alliances and we have come to agreements where necessary. A mature conversation would have involved us having a discussion and I would have valued that, instead I remain with a blanket statement with no substance, nor ability to address reasonably.

Since that time we know about the issue with Absa and Rhyagelle. Two H? members moved over to Rhyagelle about a week before they declared war on Absa. I note with some interest that those members are back in H? and busy sieging our towns.

So, I look forward to the chance at having a discussion about peace.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 01:29
Dont think it needed explaining J as the message has been the same the whole way through but good summary anyway. Lets see if anyone is listening this time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 01:35
Booo! Booooo! weaklings!!! Cowards! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 02:01

Jasche, your words are always so eloquent and heartfelt, and I respect you for that.   Unfortunately, they ring hollow at this time.  While the Mitt Romney and Barrack Obama campaigns would fight to employ you as a speechwriter, I cannot let you go unchallenged in declaring that this is nothing more than propaganda to win the hearts and emotions of the masses.  You have always been the master in applying your spin to the narrative, a wordsmith that Prince Harry could have used after his trip to Las Vegas, and a true statesman that is loyal to his cause. 

Friends help friends nothing more, nothing less, and those two H members were asked by friends to assist their alliance in dealing with a heavy-handed and first blood taking Consone alliance.  I feel bad that you are the unofficial leader of a group that lacks a core of morals, and operates under your noble motives with fear and intimidation.  Maybe if all the other leaders of consone alliances shared your honorable approach to playing the game, we would not be at this juncture.

You say you want peace, but you alliance’s attacks, blights, and diplomatic crusades say otherwise.

Please let us forgo the public relations campaigns, I do think your eloquent and heartfelt words fall upon deaf ears when the past actions of Consone members speak so loudly we cannot hear what you say.

P.S. My best to your new bride Mrs. Jasche, and I like your new look!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 02:53

   


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 03:03
Jasche,
You have privately contacted H? Management looking for Peace.

Attempting to force our hand by bearing public pressure before dialogue has even commenced hardly endears us to join you at the table.

PS congratz on the recent wedding, hope all went well!
PPS Oh, and phonetically, we could be brothers! HA!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 03:13
Llyorn of Jaensch joins with Silverlake as H? continues to denounce any attempt at peace.

   If I see H? post anything that suggests an opportunity for peace exists, it will certainly surprise me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 03:43
Originally posted by Ryklaw Ryklaw wrote:

 If I see H? post anything that suggests an opportunity for peace exists, it will certainly surprise me.

If I ever see a VIC true attempt at peace instead of just a stall for time it will certainly surprise me.  If they wanted peace they shouldn't have started war.  They opened this door now we will all step through it together. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 03:46
Anyone with whom Harmless has had dealings in the past knows that it is not on these forums that they are to implore.  You need to go to the H? Embassy to conduct this business.

This is nothing new...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2012 at 03:51
The count continues to mount of H? denouncing any attempt at peace.

*Sigh - If I see H? post anything that suggests an opportunity for peace exists, it will certainly surprise me. 
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