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Rasak 
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Joined: 26 Nov 2011 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 140 |
 Topic: This is where I stand (H/C war)Posted: 19 Oct 2012 at 09:32 |
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I wish you well SunStorm :D
If you ever need any help with anything. Feel free to ask :D
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Vanerin
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Joined: 05 Oct 2011 Status: Offline Points: 418 |
Posted: 17 Oct 2012 at 15:15 |
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I very much agree with Darmon. Excellent posts HM. Thank you.
~Vanerin
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SunStorm
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Joined: 01 Apr 2011 Location: "Look Up" Status: Offline Points: 979 |
Posted: 17 Oct 2012 at 06:15 |
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Thanks guys - I wish you all the best!
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abstractdream
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Joined: 02 Oct 2011 Location: Oarnamly Status: Offline Points: 1857 |
Posted: 17 Oct 2012 at 05:27 |
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The forum has its uses, but the work gets done elsewhere. |
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Silverlake
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Joined: 15 Oct 2011 Status: Offline Points: 417 |
Posted: 17 Oct 2012 at 03:23 |
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I will always think highly of Sunny
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Kumomoto
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Joined: 19 Oct 2009 Status: Offline Points: 2224 |
Posted: 17 Oct 2012 at 02:37 |
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+1. SS will always be a friend. |
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JimJams
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Joined: 20 Sep 2011 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 496 |
Posted: 17 Oct 2012 at 00:42 |
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Sunstorm is a friend, the alliance he joins doesn't change it.
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BlindScribe
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Joined: 12 Sep 2012 Status: Offline Points: 168 |
Posted: 16 Oct 2012 at 23:55 |
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+1
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Darmon
Forum Warrior
Joined: 15 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 315 |
Posted: 16 Oct 2012 at 23:53 |
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HM, I sort of wish you had been the initial/official spokesperson for H? affairs in all this (assuming H? has any sort of system for PR considerations, I mean). There's something about the way that you approach and frame your thoughts and concerns that I find much more palatable than similar offerings by H? leadership.
Older players might have the luxury of forming opinions about H? from many months to years of witnessing positive contributions. But newer players (like me) or people with limited dealings with H? will probably have their views shifted by this war. And I'm not sure that the current representatives around these parts are painting you in the best light.
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BlindScribe
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Joined: 12 Sep 2012 Status: Offline Points: 168 |
Posted: 16 Oct 2012 at 23:15 |
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HM, thank you again for the detailed, thoughtful reply. I appreciate it and it sheds a great deal of light on things. Many of your enumerated points not mentioned by me were not not mentioned due to any attempted subterfuge on my part, but rather, because we (on the outside) were not privy to those actions (or lack of), and in at least a couple of cases, the points you raise could be regarded as subjective, and as such probably subject to at least some debate. As to the rest...you are part of a strong and proud alliance with a rich history. Of those things, there can be no doubt or denial. Illy would literally not BE the game it is today, were it not for the actions of your alliance. That said, you're only as good as your most recent epic (Custer was not remembered for his long and honorable military career, but rather, for his "last stand.") That is simply the way our histories work, and it's a trait of our own shared memory that has been transferred into Illy. I can certainly appreciate that you'd pay a great deal of attention to the comings and doings of your own forum, but I would argue that by "writing these forums off" you are, in a sense, playing right into what your detractors keep saying about the alliance you hail from. I have never been to the Harmless alliance forums. I come here a lot. When I come here, I often read about the stuff from here in GC, which tells me that the stuff posted here (visible to a minority of eyes) has ripple effects that reach far beyond the readership here. It seems (to me) folly to simply write that off, because at the end of the day, no matter how storied your alliance's past, the fact remains that in total, H? consists of 12M population (out of a total 190M). In other words, there are a whole lot more of "them" than there are of you, and it strikes me that that's precisely why this place is important. As to what there is to "win," I could ask you the same question about your latest contest of arms. What do you imagine that you'll "win?" at the end, even if you destroy every Consone town in the game? Do you think this will dissuade others from growing? (perhaps growing large enough to one day challenge you?) Do you imagine that the losers in such a contest cannot (or will not) simply create new accounts? The "prize" such as it is, can be won by various means, of which, military is but one. The others should not be ignored, lest they deliver a nasty bite when it's least expected, and (based on your own reply, plus the general sentiment of others from your alliance), it seems that this is the preferred course of action for you guys. Again...I can't very well take you to task for it, because you folks play to your strengths magnificently (it's just that...as I said previously, the diplo/metagame does not seem to be one of those strengths). Of course, in light of all that, it makes the fact that you've taken the time to come here and have this conversation all the more meaningful to me, so thank you again! :) ~Scirbe
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