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    Posted: 29 Sep 2012 at 22:42
I am going to speak on behalf of skorn and let the community know what has been going on.
 
 
About a month ago Skorn was on a grape patch.  Had been there for a day when aravel from crow attacked and killed an army.  When asked why attacked aravel said it was his patch and had been there for weeks.  Ok no apology no reinbursement for lost resouces.  Skorn backed off and let him have it believing aravel's story that he had been there.  (Although in reality think he saw the army there and plowed it over anyways.)
 
Skorn had an agreement with moondragon (from wet or wes) to farm his soverign square one square from his city.  Skorn asked permission and since it was a large herb patch moondragon was very kind and nice in sharing when he didn't have to.
 
A day or so later aravel starts farming that square of moondragon's (1 square and on sov land of moondragon's).  Both Skorn and moondragon asked aravel to stop and even told their leadership.  Aravel kept on.  Moondragon first said he was going to put an army there to prevent aravel from farming but later decided that it was good idea to just share 3 ways that would unite the guilds and be good for everyone.
 
There was a loose agreement that they would alternate weeks in farming, but no schedule was ever made no dates set.  Originally it was just if noone was there it was open and could farm but if someone was there wouldn't farm.  Skorn only had like 20 herbalists and it was 80 patch that regened daily so no biggie. 
 
About a week ago Skorn gets a message from aravel mad about him farming on his week.  Skorn said hey man i didnt' know it was your week.  I won't farm there anymore on your week and Skorn didn't.  Told aravel that skorn was moving that city so that instead of sharing 3 ways it would be down to 2 ways.  And told aravel that skorn was giving his rare herb patch (5 squares from his city) that had been skorns only for weeks to moondragon to kinda pay moondragon back for being so kind and sharing with skorn. 
 
next thing you know aravel attacks skorn's army that was on his rare herb patch 5 squares from his city, kills his herbalists, and puts 3k army next to skorn's city on the rare herb preventing him from farming the last 2 days before the exodus.
 
skorn defending himself (self defense) launched 3 waves of armies 600 men or so total vs aravel's 3k.  skorn told the leaders of crow 2 days in advance and aravel an army was en route so aravel had plenty of time to move.  he didn't and in fact he reinforced it with another 2k army.  skorn lost all his men and commanders was blighted 3 times.  not just the city i was exodusing but skorn's main city as well.
 
now skorn was not the aggressor here.  aravel was.  he attacked skorn and he kept taking and taking and taking and pushing.  finally skorn stood up for himself.  now capricorne (the diplomacy guy for crow) wants to attack skorn for pay back for attacking aravel.  skorn never attacked aravel first.
 
isn't self defense in skorn's right when someone puts 5k army 5 squares from his city kills his army for the 2nd time and herbalists for 2nd time.  doesn't he have a right to defend his property his land?  i would hope the community backs skorn on this cause and some people plz ask capricore and aravel to just leave him alone.
 
skorn already moved his city to let aravel have it.  and instead of sharing 3 ways with moondragon he now has shared 2 ways.  i believe skorn to be on the right on this issue.  thanks for listening.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2012 at 22:59
Misleading topic title. You should probably change it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2012 at 23:04
The players name is Skorn. It's not really his fault there is an alliance named after him. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2012 at 23:09
I can hear the frustration here, but if he was moving anyway then what was the point of attacking?  Sometimes it is better to just walk away.  Yes, everyone has the right to defend themselves.  It sounds like this player did his best (sending all that he had) against someone he felt had wronged him.  Still, it seems like this argument is over since the one player got to keep the square he planted 5k troops on....  Other than that, I am not sure if this is material for the politics and diplomacy page unless you are preparing to declare war or are seeking some recompense for damages.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2012 at 23:18

I am dealing with this via IGM.

Player and alliance in question would like more flesh... not going to happen.
Skorn is a peaceful god fearing guy.

He admits he is not perfect. I have stopped him sending IGMs for now.. so that I can defuse without complications.

Part of his frustration may be the tight leash I have placed him on!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2012 at 01:39
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2012 at 01:43
@Luna, my bad!

Shall rephrase and just say that Aravel should have respected moondragon's sovereignty & not harvest a tile that's just 1 square away from his city. And 5k units to occupy a square is abit excessive. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2012 at 04:12
Originally posted by SunStorm SunStorm wrote:

Still, it seems like this argument is over since the one player got to keep the square he planted 5k troops on.... Other than that, I am not sure if this is material for the politics and diplomacy page unless you are preparing to declare war or are seeking some recompense for damages.


what about this....?

Originally posted by mufridaz mufridaz wrote:

now capricorne (the diplomacy guy for crow) wants to attack skorn for pay back for attacking aravel.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2012 at 09:45
Well, as stated, I'm a diplomacy guy so an attack is the last thing I want to do. Mediation is on his way so I really do not know why this topic has poped up.

First and certainly last comment on this topic.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2012 at 18:02
Originally posted by Capricorne Capricorne wrote:

...

First and certainly last comment on this topic.

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