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Bellas 
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 Topic: Filling buy orders from a Hub
Posted: 17 Sep 2012 at 16:57 |
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Is there a way to fill buy orders from someone who generated it from a city with goods I have stored in a Hub? If not then this is a major flaw in the trading system. A lot of traders are sending the majority of their goods to the hub's in order to be able to sell them, we should be able to fill orders from cities from there.
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DeathDealer89
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Posted: 17 Sep 2012 at 17:10 |
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Do you plan on stationing caravans in the hub to fill these orders? Because they wouldn't have the caravans for the transaction. If so then it kinda goes around the point of having vanless trades at the hubs.
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Bellas
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Posted: 17 Sep 2012 at 21:27 |
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I keep 50-60 vans at the Hub to make trades. This is one of the main reasons I think we should be able to fill orders from the Hub. If you keep your vans there, its nearly impossible to fill orders from my "trade" town because I dont have the vans there.
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abstractdream
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Posted: 18 Sep 2012 at 02:23 |
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I was wondering if you could not send 10 vans from each town instead of most all the vans of one town? Not much of a trader, just curious.
Edited by abstractdream - 25 Oct 2012 at 16:22
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JimJams
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Posted: 18 Sep 2012 at 13:31 |
I agree Trade v2 miss a bit, but I am optimistic it will be implemented soon:
A) ability to fill a sell or buy order from an hub to a city (using hub vans of course) B) ability to use all vans in an hub regardless of the owner city, for orders (I don't care if they will be visualized as multiple groups of vans, just want to be able to enter one order instead of multiple, and the ability to use them all together when option A is enabled)
I think the absence of A), and the fact city orders are still global and not local, are the main reasons because actually hub have LOWER prices. It's a bad circle, selling in hubs is not convenient because of taxes and lower prices, so you use mainly city orders, so hubs orders stagnate.... and so on...
May be it is time to remove the global visibility of city orders ???
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Salararius
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Posted: 18 Sep 2012 at 14:47 |
 abstractdream wrote:
I was wondering if you can you not send 10 vans from each town instead of most all the vans of one town? Not much of a trader, just curious. |
Any town with the "Faction Markets" research can send vans to any hub you have a trader at and all vans at hubs work the same way regardless of what town they came from.
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Salararius
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Posted: 18 Sep 2012 at 14:56 |
Bellas wrote:
Is there a way to fill buy orders from someone who generated it from a city with goods I have stored in a Hub? If not then this is a major flaw in the trading system. A lot of traders are sending the majority of their goods to the hub's in order to be able to sell them, we should be able to fill orders from cities from there. |
First off, I agree it's a flaw. I think there are several despite the rather high quality of what they've given us.
but...
It you have widgets in a hub and a player is willing to buy them at $4 and you are willing to sell them at $4 then do you have a sell offer posted at $4? If you do, why not just IGM the player and tell him that if he want's them at $4 he needs to click on the sell offer because you can't deliver on his buy offer. I realize that for basic resources, hides, minerals and herbs we may be talking about more than 3K goods but for other stuff it's likely to be just as many vans for the buyer.
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Bellas
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Posted: 18 Sep 2012 at 19:01 |
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Posting sell orders do not work for those that do not have traders at the Hubs. This is why most people are placing buy orders from their towns to begin with and not in Hubs. It would be nice for people that do have traders in the Hubs to fill orders to cities from a Hub instead of having to fill them from their own cities.
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Salararius
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Posted: 18 Sep 2012 at 19:50 |
Bellas wrote:
Posting sell orders do not work for those that do not have traders at the Hubs. This is why most people are placing buy orders from their towns to begin with and not in Hubs. It would be nice for people that do have traders in the Hubs to fill orders to cities from a Hub instead of having to fill them from their own cities. |
You can buy from a hub without even having a trader (let alone one at that hub). You go to the market, find a hub sell order, click buy, enter the number to buy and click check, make sure it looks good and click confirm. Your caravan heads to the hub with the gold, drops the gold off and picks up the goods and brings them home.
I've got traders at three hubs and I've sold sold millions of basic goods to people in towns and I've bought millions of basic goods from towns and I've sold 1000s of herbs, minerals, salts and animal parts to people in towns and I've bought the same from towns. All with hub traders to/from towns.
Maybe I don't understand? 
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Bellas
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Posted: 18 Sep 2012 at 20:38 |
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You have to be able to see the hub in order to do that. Without a trader there you only see the closest hub to your town. If I want to sell from Hub A and the person buying only sees goods from Hub B, it does me no good to post a sell order there.
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