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    Posted: 22 Aug 2012 at 16:03
Since it's specifically stated that Riding Horses are ridden to battle but not ridden in battle, logically one would assume they wouldn't die just because the troops riding them died.  Logically, if all the troops died, there would be no one left to bring the horses home.  But, if there were troops alive, wouldn't those troops get the horses of the dead along with their own?

I fear this is too much to hope though.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Sep 2012 at 20:02
I guess your "wish" is very logical, buy I assume when a troop horse dies, you loose the horse always.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Sep 2012 at 20:26
But then, logically, wouldn't some of the riders have their horses killed out from under them?  I guess the answer here is that we could demand a complex system to simulate how this works out, or we could just assume they balance out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Sep 2012 at 21:32
Originally posted by Aurordan Aurordan wrote:

But then, logically, wouldn't some of the riders have their horses killed out from under them?  I guess the answer here is that we could demand a complex system to simulate how this works out, or we could just assume they balance out.

How, Riding Horses aren't ridden into battle.  I believe that was the reasons the devs stated for why they offered no attack or defense bonus.

That logic would explain why it balances out with Heavy Warhorse for wolf riders, but not Riding Horses for swordsmen, trueshots, etc...

I'm not demanding anything.  I'm asking how it works.  We assume these crafted things will be destroyed when the troops are destroyed because that's how the cheap stuff works.  But they are making changes to the combat model.  When we attack animals they drop stuff, so it's clear that we have a new possibility in combat now.  I'm a little curious if they plan to extend that to troops or not and if so what sort of things that may imply?  I'm definitely not demanding anything though.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Sep 2012 at 21:42
If the rider dies there's no one to bring the horse back....



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Sep 2012 at 22:13
horses are smart animals. they will find their way home, maybe fetch all the fallen equipment to, if they are at it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Sep 2012 at 22:25
Originally posted by SugarFree SugarFree wrote:

horses are smart animals. they will find their way home, maybe fetch all the fallen equipment to, if they are at it.


And loot some corpses for gold.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 05:19
Originally posted by geofrey geofrey wrote:

If the rider dies there's no one to bring the horse back....

Well, the original question did premise that everyone did not die.  Mongol riders (in real life) would generally travel with several mounts and often switch to a fresh mount (there's a wiki for that).  The knights in this game have several mounts.  Horses are not tanks, they don't need a rider like a tank needs a driver.  Of course, horses can't do many things.  Horses can't pick up gold, spears, play backgammon or chess, but they are capable of following other horses or being led by a rider on another horse.  A single rider is more than capable of travelling with several horses and historically there have been military advantages to doing just that.  If I were a swordsman, leaving battle, getting my horse, and I saw my dead buddy's horse, I'd lead him (the horse, not the dead buddy) back.  His weapons might be broken, his armor rent, his beer drunk, but his horse (if not ridden to battle) would be fine and quite valuable.

If you (peanut gallery, not Geofrey) think it's a stupid question, that's fine.  I was just wondering "out loud".  Please forgive me.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 05:25
Not at all stupid; let's have a ruling and be clear about this!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Sep 2012 at 07:45
Originally posted by Salararius Salararius wrote:

If you (peanut gallery, not Geofrey) think it's a stupid question, that's fine.  I was just wondering "out loud".  Please forgive me.
From an odd angle, as long as troops in a town under siege at the time of a raze or capture "attempt" simply desert Beneath the Misted Land, taking the city walls (of all things) with them, I doubt that the behaviour of horses with dead riders is a top priority for the Devs. Dead


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