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    Posted: 17 Aug 2012 at 10:48
You do not need a trader to accept any buy or sell order that is visible to you in the marketplace.

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Originally posted by Captain Ganoes Paran Captain Ganoes Paran wrote:

you need a trader to accept buy and sell orders
Not really, I accepted trade hub offers in towns very far away from my town with a trader.  You need a trader to receive goods at a hub from your own towns with the faction markets research, and as you said, to create your own buy and sell offers at the hub (once you have goods and gold at it.) 
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you need a trader to accept buy and sell orders and you need a trade office and the research to place orders 
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As I understand it, you can *accept* buy and sell orders in a hub without a Trader, you just can't *place* them.
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You don't need traders to trade in the global market, but you also cannot sell/buy anything but basic resources in the global market, correct?

So if you intend to trade any of the new crafting resources or crafted weapons/horses/armors, traders ARE required.

Or am I misunderstanding how the system works?
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Trade hubs are not active in game yet.

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Grapes aren't required to trade. You can do town-to-town trades with caravans on the town-to-town market. And your first trader for your first trade hub doesn't require any grapes. So you can trade without having any grapes. But if you want to trade in distant lands in many hubs, you'll start to need them to create your traders. 

It will take a while of us monitoring trade once the system is fully operational in game to tell if any change to grape distribution is required. Until then, we just have to wait and see. 

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So I have built a Merchants Guild, and Trade Office but can't see where I can trade .... how can i town-to-town trade if there is nothing on my market screen?  How do i put in a sell/buy Hides, or Minerals etc. Sorry if these are dumb questions, but hey ! :o)
From your above statement I thought that this would be on the normal Market Screen, with new products opening up ???
Or when you say town-to-town market do you mean trades negotiated 'off market' i.e. negotiated directly with another player?

Please advise.

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Do you built a trader ?
If yes, find a trade hub next to you, click on it, look the menu...
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Ahhh so you need a Trader even to do Town-to-Town trades with the new resources?
Does that trader have to be in a Hub to do Town-to-town trades as well as trading with that Hub ?
Or am i getting this all wrong?

Many thanks for your patience :o)
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Originally posted by Saladin The Zephyr Saladin The Zephyr wrote:

Originally posted by GM Luna GM Luna wrote:

Originally posted by Brids17 Brids17 wrote:

Originally posted by Ander Ander wrote:

There are plenty dmar, mostly in "small green hills" kind of places. I have seen them in Keppen, Zanpur, Laoshin and some other places.

Are they really placed in certain places based on the area of the map? I worried this might be the case. I don't understand the Devs reasoning in this. Make an item that seems fairly scarce, then make players require mass quantities of it in order to trade? 

Grapes aren't required to trade. You can do town-to-town trades with caravans on the town-to-town market. And your first trader for your first trade hub doesn't require any grapes. So you can trade without having any grapes. But if you want to trade in distant lands in many hubs, you'll start to need them to create your traders. 

It will take a while of us monitoring trade once the system is fully operational in game to tell if any change to grape distribution is required. Until then, we just have to wait and see. 

Luna

So I have built a Merchants Guild, and Trade Office but can't see where I can trade .... how can i town-to-town trade if there is nothing on my market screen?  How do i put in a sell/buy Hides, or Minerals etc. Sorry if these are dumb questions, but hey ! :o)
From your above statement I thought that this would be on the normal Market Screen, with new products opening up ???
Or when you say town-to-town market do you mean trades negotiated 'off market' i.e. negotiated directly with another player?

Please advise.

Best Regards


Do you built a trader ?
If yes, find a trade hub next to you, click on it, look the menu...
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Originally posted by GM Luna GM Luna wrote:

Originally posted by Brids17 Brids17 wrote:

Originally posted by Ander Ander wrote:

There are plenty dmar, mostly in "small green hills" kind of places. I have seen them in Keppen, Zanpur, Laoshin and some other places.

Are they really placed in certain places based on the area of the map? I worried this might be the case. I don't understand the Devs reasoning in this. Make an item that seems fairly scarce, then make players require mass quantities of it in order to trade? 

Grapes aren't required to trade. You can do town-to-town trades with caravans on the town-to-town market. And your first trader for your first trade hub doesn't require any grapes. So you can trade without having any grapes. But if you want to trade in distant lands in many hubs, you'll start to need them to create your traders. 

It will take a while of us monitoring trade once the system is fully operational in game to tell if any change to grape distribution is required. Until then, we just have to wait and see. 

Luna

So I have built a Merchants Guild, and Trade Office but can't see where I can trade .... how can i town-to-town trade if there is nothing on my market screen?  How do i put in a sell/buy Hides, or Minerals etc. Sorry if these are dumb questions, but hey ! :o)
From your above statement I thought that this would be on the normal Market Screen, with new products opening up ???
Or when you say town-to-town market do you mean trades negotiated 'off market' i.e. negotiated directly with another player?

Please advise.

Best Regards
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Points: 6903 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Aug 2012 at 19:46
If there are any excess grapes ... I have a city in a fairly grape-rich area and I've been gathering fairly busily without exhausting the available fields or being TOO greedy, and I still don't have enough for half a barrel of wine.
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