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Auraya 
Postmaster
Joined: 17 Nov 2011
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Points: 523
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 Topic: Remove Gifting Medals Outside Alliance
Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 16:49 |
So, as many people are aware, the ability to gift medals outside the alliance is now being abused so that when an alliance loses a war, they have to gift medals to the winning side. A lot of people feel strongly about this and I'd like to keep the TLR/TRO bashing to a minimum.. but do people agree this should be allowed and is fair play? Or do we want it removed before the problem escalates?
I personally love medals and it's a shame that it's come to this.. but I have to say I'd like the option removed to prevent abuse.
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Bard
Wordsmith
Joined: 21 Feb 2012
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 121
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 16:51 |
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They don't HAVE to give medals. That's totally false. In one particular instance the terms of a surrender included an agreement on this as part of the ceasefire. I doubt it's really a trend we'll be seeing.
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SugarFree
Forum Warrior
Joined: 09 Feb 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 350
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 16:53 |
^^ quote for truth indeed. the real problem are that there are things like medals in the first place.
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dunnoob
Postmaster
Joined: 10 Dec 2011
Location: Elijal
Status: Offline
Points: 800
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 16:55 |
The vote link was posted in GC without explanation, and clicking on it casted a vote for I don't know what. 
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Twist
Wordsmith
Joined: 08 Jul 2012
Location: united kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 140
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 16:55 |
personally, I think medals can be used as an incentive, and reward, within an alliance, fullfilling certain roles, reaching set targets.... to award medals to anyone outside an alliance, there's too much chance of the system being abused, in various ways
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 6903
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 16:56 |
I'm not sure about removing the ability to gift medals, but this is a VERY good reason to avoid having medals confer any additional benefits (like spells or something). As we have seen, this would be very easy to turn the wrong way.
I have gotten medals from alliances other than mine, and I have been very honored by it. At the same time, I would rather it not be an option given how it has recently been used.
I would rather it not be an option, but I'm not sure it shouldn't be -- in general I am supportive of more choices rather than fewer.
On the other hand, I wouldn't mind if medals went away entirely.
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Auraya
Postmaster
Joined: 17 Nov 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 523
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 17:03 |
 dunnoob wrote:
The vote link was posted in GC without explanation, and clicking on it casted a vote for I don't know what. |
If Rill voted no, I'm not sure but I'd suspect you voted yes. If Rill voted yes, you've voted no. Please just state opinion here and I apologise for not double checking my link. If you can still vote on the poll, you've simply not voted.
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geofrey
Postmaster General
Joined: 31 May 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 1013
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 17:05 |
medals can be used as an incentive to agree upon peace, and a request to end war. This just adds another layer of depth to our sandbox.
An alliance is perfectly entitled to say "buy me a medal, or else!" But by doing so they could risk becoming a huge target for white knights. It all comes down to diplomacy, and game play persona. Two aspects that Illyriad shines at.
Edited by geofrey - 20 Jul 2012 at 17:06
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Bonaparta
Postmaster
Joined: 03 Nov 2011
Location: Milky Way
Status: Offline
Points: 541
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 17:10 |
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Auraya please stop making fuss about nothing. First of all how other alliances negotiate for cease fire and peace is none of your concern and second you have no idea what was going on in negotiations, perhaps TRO proposed medals in the first place...
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Tordenkaffen
Postmaster
Joined: 16 Oct 2010
Location: Denmark
Status: Offline
Points: 821
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Posted: 20 Jul 2012 at 17:14 |
Personally I find it disgusting to mix real money issues into the game.
Not making an example out of the current strife I'll stick to plain speculation.
If a leader had lost a war/conflict, and his/her members were under the threat of annihilation, there is no determinable length as to how far said leader could be pushed into paying "protection money" for his alliance. In fact the consequences can end up turning this game into something it was never intended.
I find the new usage of the medals rather provocative and offensive, tho to be fair I don't think it should have consequences for the involved parties this time around. But in the future, making such demands should imo have quite tangible consequences.
Thats all.
Edited by Tordenkaffen - 20 Jul 2012 at 17:15
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