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Meagh
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Topic: Why would older groups be making claims? Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 08:59 |
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yes very much, a happy resolution... thanks to gmsc for looking into it and also to valar / dlord leaders for taking the time to investigate it with me. - M.
Edited by Meagh - 17 Sep 2011 at 08:59
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<Squill>
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Posted: 17 Sep 2011 at 08:21 |
All is well that ends well.
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GM Stormcrow
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Joined: 23 Feb 2010
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 23:46 |
OK, this has been fixed, in 3 areas:
1. Players who aren't actually having sovereignty abandoned won't receive a message about it 2. Players who are having sovereignty abandoned now receive a sensible email explaining that this is what is happening, as opposed to some plainly wrong nonsense about non-existent counterclaims
Apologies for the confusion, and to all concerned parties. It was actually a nice bug to have reported to us, as it would have been a nightmare to have found without your help and Petitions.
Many thanks.
SC
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belargyle
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 23:46 |
The Dlord member has been inactive (as stated by Lord Kilotov) and thus no one has been in her account to even make a 'claim'. I have already explained this, amoung other things to initial poster in question. Additionally, though Dlord and Valar are not 'buddies', to my knowledge we have no personal grudge against nor toward each other. Valar can correct me if I'm wrong, but from Dlords side we have no personal issues against them. @ StormCrow - Who was the initiating person, if you would be so kind as to inform us?
Edited by belargyle - 16 Sep 2011 at 23:47
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GM Stormcrow
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 23:29 |
Hi all,
I can confirm that there is a display glitch in the email itself - misidentifying a 'counter-claim' party and location during a server negative resource clean-up process.
Both players did, indeed, lose some sovereignty - but one of the players' names and location pairing was incorrectly on the mail sent to the other.
I'm working on a fix to this as we speak.
Regards,
SC
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Darkwords
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 22:49 |
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I am not saying it is propaganda, but that it must either be a glitch or propaganda.
It is probably a glitch, but then with the back handed tactics some people seem to Troll the VALAR with it would not surprise me if someone wanted to increase tensions between these two alliances.
We are killing each others troops at the moment afterall.
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Createure
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 22:42 |
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Indeed I am inclined to believe both VALAR and DLords' assertions that neither player is online or sent this mission... I also find it extremely far-fetched that this is some kind of propoganda or trouble stirring mechanism though...
Firstly - how exactly is this supposed to offend anyone? The player affected can reclaim the land very easily for no additional cost.
Secondly - this is such an entirely random and unlikely thing to happen (2 unconnected players both counter-claiming the same sov square from a 3rd unconnected party on the other side of the map) that I cannot believe your average troll would make that up.
Which leaves me leaning towards the "It's a bug" explanation... submit a petition and check it anyways.
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Brids17
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 22:06 |
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The plot thickens...
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Kilotov of DokGthung
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 21:59 |
Meagh wrote:
Today Boromir from Order of the Valar and Morida from Dwarven Lords both initiated sovereignty claims on one of our players sovereignty squares.
Neither Valor or DLords has any cities close to 593|469. Both are almost 1000 squares away. They cannot be serious about making use of the square. This leaves me to wonder, why they would go out of their way to initiate something against the player and our group. There can be no dispute, either Dwarven Lords or Order of the Valar could completely wipe those of the Relic off the map. One player from each group has more population than all of us combined in just one or two of their cities. I can see no reason, no honor, no practical purpose for either of these groups or players in initiating action against us.
Is this a practice older players or groups use to give us notice they are watching us? Or is it a way people attempt to lure others into aggressive action?
Can someone please explain why they may have done this? Thanks for any input that might shed some light on motive for me. - Meagh ~
> FW: Counterclaim rescinded at 593|469 > Received: 16 Sep 2011 03:50 > Original Message: The Sovereign counterclaim by Boromir from Erechat this location has been rescinded. As this was your Sovereign Square, this rescindment takes effect immediately. |
> FW: Counterclaim rescinded at 593|469 > Received: 16 Sep 2011 03:50 > Original Message: The Sovereign counterclaim by Morida from Nubletat this location has been rescinded. As this was your Sovereign Square, this rescindment takes effect immediately. |
Edit: I should note that I suspect that these players likely acted of their own initiative in this... the only apparent collusion is between the two (perhaps maybe Boromir's alt is Morida?). This may not be the policy of Valar or Dlords, i've contacted both alliance leaders to find out. Even at that however I'm still interested in the motive behind this and if this is a common tactic in Illy.
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you sir, must have made stuff up. | Morida [Dlord] |
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this player is sadly inactive. right now. may care to explain what exactly is going on?
Edited by Kilotov of DokGthung - 16 Sep 2011 at 22:03
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Celebcalen
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Posted: 16 Sep 2011 at 21:44 |
Createure wrote:
Why would this be anti-VALAR propoganda Darkwords...?
It is also aimed at a DLords player, and last time I checked DLords and VALAR weren't exactly bed buddies.
| If what you say is true Creat, then you may have answered your own question there, mate. If the two alliances are a having tiff then others may have stepped in to create a bit of pnp mischief. Wouldn't be the first time. Speaking of which I haven't seen DR make a post in this thread yet
Edited by Celebcalen - 16 Sep 2011 at 21:53
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