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    Posted: 10 Jul 2011 at 03:25
Originally posted by Aneirin Aneirin wrote:

Originally posted by (EOM) Harry (EOM) Harry wrote:

  You are mental Sir.

O really? Well you know what they say "It takes one to know one".


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jul 2011 at 23:07
Originally posted by (EOM) Harry (EOM) Harry wrote:

I am just a madman with a Laptop
Arent we all madmen? starts singing song, I'm a smoker,I'm a joker, I am a midnight toker

Edited by Gemley - 10 Jul 2011 at 02:44
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 13:03
Wow, thats not even slightly childish ;)

And yes, yes i am mental.
I am just a madman with a Laptop
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 05:45
Originally posted by (EOM) Harry (EOM) Harry wrote:

  You are mental Sir.

O really? Well you know what they say "It takes one to know one".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 03:13
Originally posted by Createure Createure wrote:

I have much respect for Az's post earlier. I reckon he's dealt with a rather difficult situation with a cool head.

Someone mentioned something about the future of  VALAR? Well from what I've seen so far I have no doubt that these guys will continue to thrive and partake as valuable members of the wider Illy community.

Great post... Full of meaning!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jul 2011 at 03:11
Great post... Full of meaning!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 23:59
For the record, _Duq's actions would not have been tolerated in H?     Our members are fighters but they do not, nor are they allowed, to attack or coerce new players.     I couldn't begin to list the help they have quietly given to new players in this game or the support and protection they have given to Toothless, a new player training alliance.   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 23:27
Mr. Damage - I am very sorry for reading too much into your comments.  I do apologize.  Please don't remain quiet on account of that.

*sigh*  I'm gone for a day, and the trolls come out to play...
Originally posted by Aneirin Aneirin wrote:

The only mistake _duQ made was not being a member of H? Had he been a member of your alliance Berberos would have been labelled a troll and Lorre & co would be wetting their pants to try and claim Kudos for attacking him
Harry pretty much addressed the rest, but I would like to comment on this.  Had it been a member of H? - It wouldn't have mattered.  The stance I (and Lorre) took on this issue was a matter of principle.  ...but what would a troll know of morals?...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 19:08
Originally posted by Aneirin Aneirin wrote:

Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

One thing remains consistent throughout, and that is that Valar's approach, while differing significantly from that of Harmless, does merit respect.  Harmless takes positions and standards based on principle first, strategy second, but that is not to say we see Valar as an unprincipled alliance.


Quiet frankly some the posts of players like KillerPoodle, Llyron of Jaensch, Kumomoto on the forum and especially GC reveal the fallacy of the above statement. The fact is Harmless? is  a win at all costs alliance. It does not put players first at all. It subordinates them to success. domination and humiliation of what it percieves as its inferiors. THAT IS THE CULTURE OF HARMLESS? 

Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

Some may call the ejection of _duQ as a scapegoat action, but I follow the adage that one should not attribute to malice what can be sufficiently explained by incompetence--or put another way, Occam's Razor: all other things being equal, the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one.

Hypocricy. The only mistake _duQ made was not being a member of H? Had he been a member of your alliance Berberos would have been labelled a troll and Lorre & co would be wetting their pants to try and claim Kudos for attacking him

Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

It is simpler to believe that Valar gave _duQ freedom and then regretted doing so, than to believe they allowed their reputation to be questioned, and used him as a scapegoat to cleanse themselves, without having accomplished anything as an alliance.  After all, what would be the point of making waves and burning _duQ if there's no change for Valar other than adding a blemish to their reputation and losing a strong player?


Typical HM spin. We all know that Lorre and Co took the this simple conflict between _duQ and berberos and almost bored GC to death with weeks of peurile whining and hyped up idiocy. Egged on by Harmless? goons  ie Kumo, Anjire, Lawn of Stench as well Dlord member Smoking Mwahaahaa GNU. The whole thing was an attempt to take the smaller issue and evaggerate it out of all proportion so that it could used it to demonise Valar.  What a pantomime it was. Most people were sick and tired of it.

Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

  Wacko  No, Anjire rendered blame where blame is due, and engaged in due process to resolve the situation.  I also render blame where blame is due.

What can I say? This is risible. Not even worthy of comment.

The fact of the matter is that Honored Mule is attempting to hide the truth THEY don't want this situation resolved at all and if you read HM's earlier post you will see that they are not satisfied that the accounts of -duQ and Quicks have been expelled from Valar. Going back to my point about the culture that exists in the H? leadership  - they want more and more ...from Valar. They want to crush them. That is Harmless? and that is what this whole sorry affair has been about. This is War is now.  A diplomatic type  metagame one, but war nonetheless with real casualties...AND Harmless? are prosecuting it.


I lolled quite a bit through all of this, One can i point out that you have a fail of analyzing thread comments as you pick out a massive section of writing then don't even address, counter or change the readers view, all you do is bring up a completely unfathomable conspiracy theory  about H? being completely behind it and don't even back up the points you make, you just state an opinion (because an opinion without a source or evidence is always an opinion) and then state it again and again, hoping that someone is silly enough to read your points and not go "WUT?"

You then make a continued and empasised point that WE ALL have the same views as you and that we don't care essentialy and are bored of it. This made me cringe and chuckle for two reasons:

1) you have the ordasity to include the entire illyriad community in a statement which has no evidence of these people believing the same.

2) Most of us actually care about what happens as all the people involved are very prominent players you numpty, of course we care.

Then you drag H? into the argument, who ha much better things to do with their time than refuting your'e insane claims AND then not only carry on the stupidity but then say that H? have no right to be involved when YOU BROUGHT THEM IN! are you stupid or just here to annoy the crap out of everyone (i suppose the latter is in effect here) 

Finnaly what made me laugh most of all is that you say " Herpy Dep i'm not going to answer this part of the comment because it's stupid herpy derp"

Then you answer it, You are mental Sir.

Please, for me and for everyone else who love to watch the forums with interest and appreciation.

Leave or start giving decent points to contribute to said arguments.

Kthxbye
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jul 2011 at 13:22
I have much respect for Az's post earlier. I reckon he's dealt with a rather difficult situation with a cool head.

Someone mentioned something about the future of  VALAR? Well from what I've seen so far I have no doubt that these guys will continue to thrive and partake as valuable members of the wider Illy community.
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