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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 16:22
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 16:02
Originally posted by Lionz Heartz Lionz Heartz wrote:

Here I call upon the players in the alliance Curse of the Wolves. I have not done any horrible act to deserve siege onto my towns. If this could happen to me, this can happen to any member in the Curse alliance. Do you think it is right for such a leader to treat a former member like this that has done nothing but everything for the Curse alliance? For any player in my alliance that likes me, I ask you to use your voice now and prevent a petty attack on a player that did nothing but support every player in the alliance.

C'mon now I even chose the location for the alliance. The area I reside in was my idea and allowed other members to move next to me.

So when I decide to leave the alliance on my own terms, is this reason enough to siege a person's town?

I have tried to mail Iduna about possible naps and confeds before but she would never respond back to me with an answer.

A day ago she attacked my towns with magic and diplomats, I then gave her a mail about it. She denied the whole thing. And then based on some of her comments about naps not being able to attack her on global chat etc... I figured it was her and some Curse members that attacked me. I went public on global about the attacks. She then was quick to admit to doing those attacks and began to mock me as a cry baby etc... If I remember right, I am pretty sure anyone would get upset over such attacks. This mockery took me over board and I threw some insults at her in retaliation. She then threatened to siege all of my towns over it. This then led me to go public in the forums about what had happened.

I know many players in this game should be able to relate to my side of the story and should start to think right now if they should put out 100% effort for their alliance. If you leave your alliance, a leader can then siege you over it. The siege of my towns be her and her alliance, will make such events a standard for any player that leaves an alliance.

If any of you feel this is wrong by any means, please speak up.

Any member in Curse, I give fair warning that what is happening to me could very well happen to you in the future.       
 
 
What is happening right now is the result of your own actions and behaviour.
Like I said before, others have left the alliance before you and they are doing just fine.
Try to reflect your comments about me onto yourself and maybe, just maybe, you will come to see that what we are doing now is for the best of both sides.
Actually, we are doing you a favour by removing you from the Curse cluster, into the corner of the map where you will be able to thrive and rebuild with a pretty advanced city.
 
At first I was very mellow by just reacting with some magic and diplo's and I was about to leave it at that, but after your display yesterday on GC that ship had sailed.
 
What is to say that you won't start acting like this again ?
This is not a first time occasion and you have just pushed it too far.
 
There is no going back anymore and I can tell you that I have full support from my alliance, no need for you to try and work on there loyalty towards Curse.
This also reflects how people feel about the way you have treated them on several occasions.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 15:37
I wanted to take abandoned Crow city, after I left them. I thought I have right to do that, because I invited that player, and he was my closest neighbour. 3ft3 destroyed my sieging army. So, after you give up leadership, you become irrelevant. Same as in RL.  Lucky for me, 3ft3 wasn't so feisty.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 15:02
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 14:56
Lionz you need some perspective.
1, Iduna only used Magic and Diplo as a response to your sieging an alliance member. Inactive or not is irrelevant.
2. She is sieging your towns due to your quite reprehensible verbal tirade yesterday.

Both of these actions Iduna is but responding to a situation you created. Yes you've apologized (which I think was a mature and admirable step) but that does not excuse your behavior.

You've no one to blame but yourself.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 14:50
What will happen to you, allready happened to Tubana. Some crews are like pirates. Shouldn't turn back to your mates :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 14:40
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 11:58
Originally posted by belargyle belargyle wrote:

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Bucknaked was nearest Ottar and a player who we only attacked to try to draw forces away and divided up through varied sieges on multiple players. We were ALREADY allied with Curse (then - WOTP) and the attack on Bucknaked was Dlords idea (specifically Ottars). We asked for aid from them on that front, to reinforce and/or siege also Bucknaked.
 

Hur. There's a player called Bucknaked? Hur.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 09:35
Astute observation, belargyle.  I caught a hint of the same undertones you explain, but could not plant my finger firmly upon them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Feb 2011 at 09:16
Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

"Dwarven Lords asked Wolves of the Plains for help and Iduna was trying to figure out where to attack. Back in the Tubana war, it was my idea to attack Bucknaked to get their alliance to focus in that area. "
 
MK sent no armies to this assault, though.  So I would not brag about it as some brilliant plan.
 
The sad part is, he/she does not even have the facts correct on that :)
 
Ottar was still with the Dwarven Lords till AFTER the MK battle.
 
Bucknaked was nearest Ottar and a player who we only attacked to try to draw forces away and divided up through varied sieges on multiple players. We were ALREADY allied with Curse (then - WOTP) and the attack on Bucknaked was Dlords idea (specifically Ottars). We asked for aid from them on that front, to reinforce and/or siege also Bucknaked.
 
I believe he noted the real issue later on in his OP.. deep down he wanted to be leader of Wolves of the Plains.
 
Funny thing is Iduna did a great job at her leadership role by delegating resposibilities to others and not doing it all herself. You would have to be NUTZ to try to keep that up! She has the right also to appoint and promote anyone she desired for the good of the alliance and since I speak with Iduna often, I know that is her desire - the good of the alliance. It sounds like he started making waves and others were backlashing against him trying to excert authority. If one desires to have respect he must first earn it AND THEN maintain it.
 
I am not the strongest player here nor close (well not to close :)
However those whom I have placed in leadership within the Dwarven Lords, I do so to compensate for my short commings. Yet they are there because I trust them and they remain of their own desire because they trust me.  If trust lags then it is talked about. Ottar and I had a falling out about his playing style and desiring to wipe out anyone within 10 squares of him, newbie or not, allied or not. I would not allow this. Ottar stepped down from leadership because our views were different yet we both had much respect for the other even after his leaving. Ottar is a good example of a leader. When things were progressing in a manner that contradicted his desires he came to me and we discussed it, or I came to him. And he stepped out rather than continue in a stressed relationship that would most certainly have ended up as this did.
 
He/she should have left long ago but it seems from the post his/her desire to control and lead the Curse was a dream to good to let go, but when he/she did.. it was to late. To illustrate I'll quote a Kenny Rogers Country Song.. "You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when ta fold 'em. Know when to walk away, and know run..."
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