Delayed attacks

Mandarins31 wrote:   Of course there could have some drawbacks. but there mut be some ways to limit them. to begin, i think that chosing the good calculation to describe the speed of the loses is a priority. not to make battles too fast or too long. personnaly, if this feature is implemented, i think that the spped of the battle must be more fonction of the difference of power of the armies, than of the weight of the armies. for exemple, 75% of the speed would be dicted by the diference of power, and 25% would be dicted by the weight of the armies. then, if in 2 different battles the armies have the same % of power difference, but a different total weight, the 2 battles would have not a huge difference of duration. the difference of the duration would be given by  the 25% of the speed dicted by the weight of the armies. would be to avoid endless battles in the case 100 000 soldiers fighted 100 000 other soldiers. personnally i think that epic battles could last days, maybe a week, as players keep reinforcing. but that would be like our actual tournaments. obviously, in the game you played, you were able to give directly new orders to you armies after or during a battle. but that's not the case in Illyriad actually. once you launched your army, you have nothing else to do. the only thing that could be possible would be eventually to send a messenger to ask your army to flee during a battle if you were outnumbered. and reinforce of course. so it doent ask more playing time i think (because you said this game was long when you were good). i think this game was long because you had too many things to regularily check, too many orders to give dayly etc... im i wrong? but for me that wont be like this if this feature was implemented

Zeus wrote: This idea is not the greatest. I once played a game that did this. It sucked. My armys would engage another army and I would leave(the battles took hours). I would check up on them and my army would be gone with the enemy wrecking havoc. Most times I won but then I would give them new orders and then leave. I come back and they are slautered. Or they are sucessful. It was 50-50. Sometimes I would check up and half my country was gone. I would fight and take it back but it happened alot. Now this game was called supremacy 1914. Its a fun game ecept for a lot of drawbacks. It was very long if you were really good like the best(which I was:P). That was why I quit. If you were good it took forever and got boring. Anyway this idea can have a lot of drawbacks. Prolonged battles are effy.

Of course there could have some drawbacks. but there mut be some ways to limit them. to begin, i think that chosing the good calculation to describe the speed of the loses is a priority. not to make battles too fast or too long.
personnaly, if this feature is implemented, i think that the spped of the battle must be more fonction of the difference of power of the armies, than of the weight of the armies. for exemple, 75% of the speed would be dicted by the diference of power, and 25% would be dicted by the weight of the armies.
then, if in 2 different battles the armies have the same % of power difference, but a different total weight, the 2 battles would have not a huge difference of duration. the difference of the duration would be given by  the 25% of the speed dicted by the weight of the armies.
would be to avoid endless battles in the case 100 000 soldiers fighted 100 000 other soldiers.
personnally i think that epic battles could last days, maybe a week, as players keep reinforcing. but that would be like our actual tournaments.


obviously, in the game you played, you were able to give directly new orders to you armies after or during a battle. but that's not the case in Illyriad actually.
once you launched your army, you have nothing else to do. the only thing that could be possible would be eventually to send a messenger to ask your army to flee during a battle if you were outnumbered. and reinforce of course. so it doent ask more playing time i think (because you said this game was long when you were good).
i think this game was long because you had too many things to regularily check, too many orders to give dayly etc... im i wrong? but for me that wont be like this if this feature was implemented







Edited by Mandarins31 - 21 Jan 2011 at 23:31

Sorry acidently put my message with the qoute:|.

Please consider, for example, that my attacks on the west flag in the tourney required 16 launches spread over a 16 hour time span (3 "groupings" each lasting between 1 hr and 1 1/2 hrs).  So 8-12 hours advance timing is too short in my opinion.  I suggest a min of 24 hours advance which would be a reasonable allowance for players with real lives.

Yeah, I didn't really mean to derail the topic, especially with one I've covered far better elsewhere.  But my idea and limited ability to schedule delayed launches are fully distinct and compatible ideas. 

Obviously I'm in favor of my own idea.  I've not had much to add to this discussion directly, but I do also favor the idea of allowing players to schedule launches around 8-9 hours in advance and I don't mind if an active prestige account is required.  Having to spend prestige for each scheduled launch, however, would likely be pushing for too much--it would be perceived by those who don't use it as an unfair advantage, and for those who do as a tax on player activity.

A thought on timing:  Players who launch manually have to ensure on their own not only that they've calculated the correct launch time, but also that they actually launch right on that time.  The more careful people (and especially alliances) are, the more satisfying and impressive the payoff (even if only in show of unity and talent).  That's valuable player experience and participation, and should still be made worthwhile--especially if some people can't partake in the easy way.  The fix is that scheduled launches should not be perfectly accurate.

Instead, timing should end up being off by an unknown amount, the magnitude of which being based on a simple probability function (i.e. super-high chance of being off by 10 seconds, substantial chance of 2 minute error, marginal chance of being off by 15 minutes, tiny chance of being off by 3 hours).  You set the schedule and it reports when it is supposed to launch, but you don't know when it really will until it does.  This way, doing things the easy way comes with some small risk and thus encourages players who can do better to try if their personal schedules allow while consoling players who have no choice and are fighting enemies who do.


Edited by HonoredMule - 21 Jan 2011 at 11:15