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Points: 568 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2011 at 21:22
Originally posted by Lashka Lashka wrote:

@ Qwazar:

Really? 
Niemoller?

THAT'S not blowing this out of context or anything.

Quoting that speech should be a corollary to Godwin's Law.

It's a game people. Let's leave the Nazi allusions at the door.

Well done Sir! the denizens of Illyriad will be hoisting you on their shoulders and will loudly be declaring your name.

Because...

I simply do not even know what to say to this. /facepalm.
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Points: 821 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2011 at 21:22
Originally posted by Qwazar Qwazar wrote:

First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.



I am (to my knowledge) the only communist in Illyriad mate and Im still here and not doing too shabby. :)

Inquisitive minds want to know; are you really having fun with a game when you are comparing your ingame adversaries to the nazis?
Do you really think you've listened to the critisizm people presented or have you just been stubbornly insisting to disregards any opinion but your own?

Silly was yesterday - hard to believe a game can make you draw such extreme parallels today dude. I genuinely think a breath of fresh air would do you good.

Take care wherever the road leads you.
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Points: 22 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2011 at 21:21
Then they came for the pricks,
and I didn't speak out because... oh wait! take cover!
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Points: 50 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2011 at 21:20
Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

Originally posted by Uno Uno wrote:

I don't think the mindset of the Murder of Crows players is different than that of Order of Valar players or any other involved in the conflict.
To sum it up: Because we don't like your approach to the game, we declare war. The funniest part however, is that the disliked approach regards wars.

I oppose war inflicted by others on those who don't want it.  When I hear Valar say they don't want war and are willing to live and let live, I will be the first to speak for them.  (If The_Dude doesn't beat me to it.)


War is already forced on Valar. What do you suppose they can do, beg for mercy like a bunch of losers? It has become clear that they do not want this war, but they also have some speck of pride as an alliance and will of course fight to defend themselves against this "crusade" against them.
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@ Qwazar:

Really? 
Niemoller?

THAT'S not blowing this out of context or anything.

Quoting that speech should be a corollary to Godwin's Law.

It's a game people. Let's leave the Nazi allusions at the door.
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Points: 6903 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2011 at 21:12
Originally posted by Uno Uno wrote:

I don't think the mindset of the Murder of Crows players is different than that of Order of Valar players or any other involved in the conflict.
To sum it up: Because we don't like your approach to the game, we declare war. The funniest part however, is that the disliked approach regards wars.

I oppose war inflicted by others on those who don't want it.  When I hear Valar say they don't want war and are willing to live and let live, I will be the first to speak for them.  (If The_Dude doesn't beat me to it.)
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Points: 50 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2011 at 21:08
Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

 We may punish if necessary, but we must not enjoy it. … Even while we kill and punish we must try to feel about the enemy as we feel about ourselves -- to wish that he were not bad, to hope that he may, in this world or another, be cured: in fact, to wish his good.

I think some people are already enjoying the "punishment", AKA a severe bully-beating, that they are administering. Judges hand out the appropriate punishments, not the death penalty at every minor infraction.



Originally posted by Uno Uno wrote:

To sum it up: Because we don't like your approach to the game, we declare war. The funniest part however, is that the disliked approach regards wars.

The chance to eliminate a powerful rival alliance is too tempting to resist. Even at the cost of destroying the cities of players who did not even raise a hand against them. Valar is not innocent, but let those who have not sinned cast the stones of war. And I do not think all these anti-Valar alliances are as righteous as they claim to be. I do not believe for a second that they are doing this most sincerely for the community. They are just doing this for themselves.
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I don't think the mindset of the Murder of Crows players is different than that of Order of Valar players or any other involved in the conflict.
To sum it up: Because we don't like your approach to the game, we declare war. The funniest part however, is that the disliked approach regards wars.
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First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
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Points: 9 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Sep 2011 at 20:16
+10 Ander....Kudos and regards
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