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Points: 800 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Sep 2012 at 23:54
Originally posted by Loud Whispers Loud Whispers wrote:

One Tenaril per account, with each having to wait a week before being able to Tenaril. Each city would have to grab a 7 food sov first, and by extension require exodus tech first. That's a lot of time invested.
 In a sponsored terraforming project it's faster to settle on a 7 food square, and let the sponsor raze the initial 5 food capital.  After that the new 7 food capital can jump.
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Points: 550 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Sep 2012 at 22:15
Originally posted by Loud Whispers Loud Whispers wrote:

Originally posted by Beecks Beecks wrote:

The above method seems exploit-y to me and I wouldn't recommend it. Using your teleport to create an odd 7 food city for your 2nd city is clever but beyond that it drifts into abuse.
One Tenaril per account, with each having to wait a week before being able to Tenaril. Each city would have to grab a 7 food sov first, and by extension require exodus tech first. That's a lot of time invested.
Originally posted by ES2 ES2 wrote:

There is no plan to grab someone to constantly make secondary accounts to slowly terraform but rather offer the choice of terraforming to someone and offer high amounts of gold or basic/advanced items to teleport then have their city razed.
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Originally posted by Beecks Beecks wrote:

The above method seems exploit-y to me and I wouldn't recommend it. Using your teleport to create an odd 7 food city for your 2nd city is clever but beyond that it drifts into abuse.
One Tenaril per account, with each having to wait a week before being able to Tenaril. Each city would have to grab a 7 food sov first, and by extension require exodus tech first. That's a lot of time invested.
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Points: 1013 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Sep 2012 at 17:55
Best of luck in terraforming!

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Originally posted by Bard Bard wrote:

@ Brids  Plus you cannot tenaril to a sq that has 0 0 0 0 0  values, so that rules out mass use of this mechanic.  Even if you land a city with 7 food, the chances are that it will never be large, because the surrounding squares cannot be terraformed, if it truly is in the middle of a bunch of null sqs.  I don't foresee huge cities up there without supporting sov, and that's mainly what you are looking at.

River sov fixes the second problem. http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/Map/-921/859 is an above average spot if you teleport in 7 farm plots. There are others out there as well; it would take a lot of time but you could easily find room for 10 cities. 


 
Beecks, this is an example of precisely the drawback of adjacent 0 sqs.  It is NOT an above average spot at all. Yes you could get river SOV at the location mentioned, IF you could Tenaril there.  You can't because it would be within 10 sqs of the town to the north on the next island where someone has Tenaril'd onto the mountain, for one thing.  The other is that you cannot land towns on the sqs by the location you posted. Whoever went there would have to survive on water sov, and the ground beneath them from Tenaril, but you could not import any other towns to the sqs next to it, as they have 00000 configurations.
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Originally posted by hellion19 hellion19 wrote:

Though slightly surprised that some random noob hasn't actually considered just doing it for gold. I considered just making a 2nd account every so often to terraform a square here and there for a 7 food spot in a more ideal location. I imagine some would pay a good bit of gold for the month or two of work that it takes to exodus then tendril. 

The plan is to target a section of the player base that would for the majority, still have the teleport skill. There is no plan to grab someone to constantly make secondary accounts to slowly terraform but rather offer the choice of terraforming to someone and offer high amounts of gold or basic/advanced items to teleport then have their city razed.

I have noticed in some cases, like the test site with its spear production sov, that there is some good sov out there in these harsh areas. I'd imagine it could eventually be profitable to trade off Terraform sites in return for adv/gold, just the workload one would have to put into it.

So in short, I was planning on (Once TLR debts are covered) to reach out to players who still have the teleport spell and offer them a contract for this Terraforming Site. Of course I'd have to bring up the cons of doing this to make it an informed descion for the player in question.
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Points: 6903 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Sep 2012 at 13:05
To clarify, a square must have at least 1 food to be able to settle or move a town there.  The value of the other resources does not matter for this purpose.

The 0-food patches in Elgea may very well host other "special features" such as the Rift in the future.
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Points: 168 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Sep 2012 at 11:25
Hmmm...I dunno....my HighLord Vel lives in the steaming jungles...I could totally see him paying top dollar for a summer retreat in the wastes!  :)
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Points: 233 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Sep 2012 at 11:23
Originally posted by hellion19 hellion19 wrote:

Though slightly surprised that some random noob hasn't actually considered just doing it for gold. I considered just making a 2nd account every so often to terraform a square here and there for a 7 food spot in a more ideal location. I imagine some would pay a good bit of gold for the month or two of work that it takes to exodus then tendril. 
Less then 2 weeks are needed and no exodus... but still if someone is going to do it, he would do it for himself and his main account.
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As I read in some other thread, and EF himself mentioned (though not here, I think): the game seems to prevent you from being able to teleport onto a 0-food square in the first place.  So that cuts down some of the terraforming options, but I suppose there is still a good bit of sub-par land that could be improved...
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