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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Tamaeon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Feb 2014 at 16:24
Originally posted by abstractdream abstractdream wrote:

First off, TVM still exists. I'm sure you and your loving friends in the Crow wings would argue it's not much of an existence but one can still view our profile and role call page. We are broken and bloody after the pile on but we are still living and doing our best to exist.

Actually we admire your commitment and determination to fight for what you believe in. We acknowledge that there's a certain difference of opinion regarding what the war is about, but we've come to terms with it. uCrow wishes TVM nothing but the best in either peace or war.

Originally posted by abstractdream abstractdream wrote:

the war that may finally destroy TVM was not started because leadership ignored efforts to avoid it. It started because EE decided to declare and attack without warning. Whether revenge, a major conspiracy to shift the balance of power in Elgea or something in between, there was no avoiding it.

We were very clear that supporting or even joining RE during the war would be viewed as an escalation; and as such would lead to further escalation. I personally pleaded repeatedly with Nistiner to avoid an expansion of the war, but my pleas were ignored. That said, we expected TVM to cave after EE declared, but you chose to fight regardless. Generous surrender terms were offered early on, but you refused them then... and continue to refuse them now. So your assertion that the war and even destruction couldn't (can't) be avoided is simply false.

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Well, EF is still bitter and petty. I'd be interested in hearing from anyone who is actually surprised by that.

TVM has indeed been hit very hard but there are some key differences in the way TLR ended and the current state of TVM.

First off, TVM still exists. I'm sure you and your loving friends in the Crow wings would argue it's not much of an existence but one can still view our profile and role call page. We are broken and bloody after the pile on but we are still living and doing our best to exist.

Next, the war that may finally destroy TVM was not started because leadership ignored efforts to avoid it. It started because EE decided to declare and attack without warning. Whether revenge, a major conspiracy to shift the balance of power in Elgea or something in between, there was no avoiding it.

The final difference I'd like to highlight is the fact that many of the members of TVM remain members. It is true that many have left for various reasons (mostly city preservation) but those that stay are not being held hostage and have been offered the opportunity to get out of the war by multiple sources. They could leave, yet do not. I count that as a major if not the main difference between the alliance you ran into the ground and the alliance I consider myself honored and seriously lucky to be a part of.
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Originally posted by ES2 ES2 wrote:

Originally posted by abstractdream abstractdream wrote:

To alleviate any undue concerns or other nonsense we have:

An updated ~TLR~ Plunder & Pillage Policy

The Long Road declares by public notice that ex-members of The Long Road remain under protection of ~TLR~ in regards to plundering or any other aggressive act. In the event the ex-member has gone inactive, ~TLR~ retains the right to regain lost investments due to that inactivity. Should an ex-member be involved in treasonous behavior ~TLR~ will summarily punish the offender as it sees fit.

Protection ends for ex-members of ~TLR~ one month from the date of departure or when the ex-member has joined another alliance, whichever comes first.

Ex-member is defined as no longer on the ~TLR~ role call.

Sincerely,

Eternal Fire


Good job running a growing empire into the ground and straight into the fiery dephs of Hell, Bonfyr.

oh here, *hands over a handbasket*
You'll need this

He honestly couldn't do it without your help Eternal Flame!
Keep up the good work of... well not running an alliance?
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Originally posted by abstractdream abstractdream wrote:

To alleviate any undue concerns or other nonsense we have:

An updated ~TLR~ Plunder & Pillage Policy

The Long Road declares by public notice that ex-members of The Long Road remain under protection of ~TLR~ in regards to plundering or any other aggressive act. In the event the ex-member has gone inactive, ~TLR~ retains the right to regain lost investments due to that inactivity. Should an ex-member be involved in treasonous behavior ~TLR~ will summarily punish the offender as it sees fit.

Protection ends for ex-members of ~TLR~ one month from the date of departure or when the ex-member has joined another alliance, whichever comes first.

Ex-member is defined as no longer on the ~TLR~ role call.

Sincerely,

Eternal Fire


Good job running a growing empire into the ground and straight into the fiery dephs of Hell, Bonfyr.

oh here, *hands over a handbasket*
You'll need this


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Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

Geofrey-- Does Affirmative Action have a mandatory percentage of Orcs, Dwarves, or Elves in its alliance makeup? ;)

Affirmative. 
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Geofrey-- Does Affirmative Action have a mandatory percentage of Orcs, Dwarves, or Elves in its alliance makeup? ;)

Edited by Kumomoto - 20 Jan 2012 at 19:29
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Originally posted by abstractdream abstractdream wrote:

Other players in the community may begin plundering ex-members of ~TLR~ one month after of the player being banished.

What do you mean with ex-members ?

1) Active player leaving your alliance?

2) Inactive players you kick ?

3) Suspended?


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Originally posted by abstractdream abstractdream wrote:

Hello,

 

I, as the current leader of The Long Road am publishing a public notice that all ex-members of The Long Road will be plundered solely by ~TLR~ to regain lost investments through member inactivity or treasonous behavior. Outside parties interfering with "retrieval" may face hostilities if ~TLR~ recieves jurisdiction from leadership to initiate said action.

Other players in the community may begin plundering ex-members of ~TLR~ one month after of the player being banished.

 

Sincerely,

Eternal Fire


Affirmative Action does not recognize your claim to un-allied cities. As set forth by the King of Illyriad, any holdings not part of an Alliance are not in anyway bound to an alliance. 

The Long Road is welcome to plunder any un-allied towns they wish, but they may not do so exclusively. 

Geofrey of Affirmative Action
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One could argue that making a declaration that you don't intend to back up is basically an expression of an opinion.  Free speech is a good thing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote abstractdream Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Jan 2012 at 04:59
That's true Ander. We obviously couldn't.

For the level headed, clearly the idea is not attacking former TLR members willy nilly. The Equalizer can attest to that. We are simply claiming what is ours within a reasonable time frame. Who would just smile and nod if an inactive was looted under their nose? We are few and fresh. We certainly aren't of a sufficient size to stop even a lone vet from doing what they want in our territory. This is just a simple CYA claim. We claim our territory and we claim certain rights. We will stand as long as we can. That's it, pretty simple.

BTW: Isn't this whole "game" a drama (or a comedy sometimes)? Everything we do is for attention, in one way or another. People don't come into Illyriad with an expectation to be left alone, to have no interaction. We all do it differently. What's the harm in a little declarative now and then?



Corrected The Equalizer's name


Edited by abstractdream - 18 Jan 2012 at 05:43
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